Stijn's provocation has the makings of a Toyota-Land Rover debate! OK, here goes. I added up the number of nights I've spent in Mponj cave over the years and its now more than a month's worth. Ledgers - yet to stay for longer than tea. Actually, we came close once afer figthing our way over in bad weather from Icidi, but it almost felt disloyal to stay on, and without any discussion we were soon labouring up the slope to Mponj not helped by the kilos of water on board. So where's the objectivity in this lot, a better sunrise maybe?