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Backpacks 29 Apr 2011 22:34 #2773

I have been having issues trying to explain to new hikers coming with me to the Berg the importance of making a backpack as light as possible, apparently they don't catch the difference that the 200 gram book they are currently reading makes over a 2 or 3 day hike (they also don't seem to realise that they will be so tired that they will not want to read it, or the fact that they may alert locals to our possition by reading it at night). After discovering that 3 guys in a group of 4 (me being the 4th) had brought custard and a full packet of melie meal on a 2 day hike up Langalibalele Pass, and then persisted to complain about how heavy their packs were (and insist that the tent which we will all sleep in is entirely my problem to carry), I have come up with a new device to illustrate the actual effects of 200 grams on a backpack. I call it the tons per hour ratio.

The assumption is that a fairly slow hiker will walk just over 3 kms in 1 hour, taking about 3 steps per metre and therefore say 10 000 steps per hour. Every gram in a pack is lifted and dropped by each footstep taken and therefore every gram carried needs to be multiplied by 10 000 to get its weight per hour. On this assumption, a 200 gram book will add 2 tons per hour to a backpack (that is a scary thought!). So basically carrying that book in a backpack on a day when 12km of hiking happens is the same amount of work as taking 4 hours to move a 1 ton car 2 footsteps from where you started, by actually picking it up and moving it! And thats before you take into account the fact that your backpack itself probably weighs about 2.5kgs!

I plan to test this explanation next time I plan a hike, this after having just failed to climb Popple Peak on my 3rd attempt this year after having a group of 2 people and the other guy not being nearly as fit as I thought (the plan having been go from Giant's Castle camp to Judge pass, camp there on night 1, climb the pass on day 2, climb Popple and the Judge, come down Corner pass, camp at the base and walk back to the car park on day 3, it ended up being hike to Bannerman Hut, climb the Bannerman Pass on day 2, turn around at the top due to taking too long to get up the pass (4h30 to climb a 3km pass is not acceptable, neither is the 5h to get back down!) and spend night 2 back in the hut, fortunately we said in the mountain register that we may use Bannerman Pass in an emergency, so they might have looked for us there if something went wrong)...
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Re: Backpacks 03 May 2011 13:50 #2784

I agree with you. The weight of your back pack is very important and I like the way you have rationally worked it out. I saw two youngsters at Cobham recentley head out with very heavy backpacks. They were very eager to stuff as much as they could in their packs and they bragged at who's was heavier and I had to chuckle. They had big smiles on their faces as they ventured out but those would have turned to grimaces after about 10 Km. I really wanted to help them but felt they should learn the hard way as I did many years ago.
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Re: Backpacks 03 May 2011 16:22 #2787

I recently bought a 45l pack...did a packing test run at home and reckon I'm good for a good 2-3 day berg trip...It forces you to only take what you need and think carefully about food and clothing. Now all I need is a trip to test it . @ghaznavid...your "tons per hour" device is a gem!!
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Re: Backpacks 06 May 2011 00:53 #2810

Don't forget to add the 6-8kg of camera gear. That tends to require a slightly bigger pack, i usually use a 65l pack, then i can pack the camera and other gear away when it starts to pour.

Re: Backpacks 06 May 2011 07:42 #2812

Ok so lets hear it. What would you guys say your average backpack weight is? Mine usually ranges from 16.5kg - 18.5kg

Re: Backpacks 06 May 2011 08:53 #2813

Mine was 19kg when we did the Sentinel to Cathedral hike (65liter), my wifes one was about 11kg (38 liter). I will definitely be leaving a few things I took that trip ... need lighter sleeping bags ...
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