Mattresses / sleeping pads
07 Dec 2011 18:30 #5123
by Wizman
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Hi I am looking to get a self inflating mattress but need to get a bit of advice on what to get , any suggestions.
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08 Dec 2011 03:38 #5124
by Serious tribe
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The only part of self inflating that is true is that you inflate it yourself ok partially true, the three brands that i have seen used in the berg all inflate partially but require some high altitude blowing to get it to the right firmness. It is though definitely far more comfortable than a gapper pad and well worth the money.
Also during winter it is advised that you take up a gapper pad to help to insulate the mattress against the cold. After all, there are only two pieces of material and air separating you from the cold ground. I recently purchaced an Exped 7M, which is a down filled mattress which removes the need for the gapper pad. This brand is not available in SA, but check to see if there is a similar product. Happy shopping!
Also during winter it is advised that you take up a gapper pad to help to insulate the mattress against the cold. After all, there are only two pieces of material and air separating you from the cold ground. I recently purchaced an Exped 7M, which is a down filled mattress which removes the need for the gapper pad. This brand is not available in SA, but check to see if there is a similar product. Happy shopping!
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09 Dec 2011 11:14 #5141
by intrepid
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Based on what is readily available in SA, I would look at Thermarest. They are not the cheapest, but the performance and weight tend to be pretty good depending on the model.
I have a Thermarest ProLite 4 which I've used for several years. Excellent durability and insulation (check the R value) - 4 season mat. But yes, like every good "self-inflating" mat, it only partially inflates. You do need to blow it up a bit. This is only a problem in seriously cold climates where the moisture in your breath freezes inside the mat (not really applicable in SA).
Also check out the Thermarest NeoAir, which is fully manually-inflating (and is thus very light and non-bulky). Initially I wasn't totally impressed with it since the first generation had a low R rating which put it more or less in the same range as the old foam mats. But they have very recently released a more insulated version which has a 4-season application. Not sure if this has hit SA shelves yet. The only drawback to the NeoAir is that it is very noisy - it rustles loudly when you move on it. They need to improve on this. Test it in the store to make sure this won't bother you.
The other brands may be more affordable but watch that R value and the weight! Consider also the long-term durability (Thermarests last!). I also found that the First Ascent mats are a royal pain to roll up...compression and air expulsion is not good and its a battle. Test the rolling up in the store.
I don't find 3/4 and 1/2 lengths very comfortable, though they do save weight. And they have a limited season use obviously.
I've seen the down-filled Expeds in Canada. A pretty serious mat for cold climates! Big Agnes is another good make, but not sure if you get them here. My wife has the Insulated Air Core model, which you blow up yourself (like the NeoAir). Its pretty light and I've used it for camping in the snow.
Hope this helps.
I have a Thermarest ProLite 4 which I've used for several years. Excellent durability and insulation (check the R value) - 4 season mat. But yes, like every good "self-inflating" mat, it only partially inflates. You do need to blow it up a bit. This is only a problem in seriously cold climates where the moisture in your breath freezes inside the mat (not really applicable in SA).
Also check out the Thermarest NeoAir, which is fully manually-inflating (and is thus very light and non-bulky). Initially I wasn't totally impressed with it since the first generation had a low R rating which put it more or less in the same range as the old foam mats. But they have very recently released a more insulated version which has a 4-season application. Not sure if this has hit SA shelves yet. The only drawback to the NeoAir is that it is very noisy - it rustles loudly when you move on it. They need to improve on this. Test it in the store to make sure this won't bother you.
The other brands may be more affordable but watch that R value and the weight! Consider also the long-term durability (Thermarests last!). I also found that the First Ascent mats are a royal pain to roll up...compression and air expulsion is not good and its a battle. Test the rolling up in the store.
I don't find 3/4 and 1/2 lengths very comfortable, though they do save weight. And they have a limited season use obviously.
I've seen the down-filled Expeds in Canada. A pretty serious mat for cold climates! Big Agnes is another good make, but not sure if you get them here. My wife has the Insulated Air Core model, which you blow up yourself (like the NeoAir). Its pretty light and I've used it for camping in the snow.
Hope this helps.
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09 Dec 2011 13:55 #5142
by Wizman
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Thanks it looks like the thermolite + is the one
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15 Dec 2011 11:13 #5163
by MK9
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Ive got a Thermarest 3 (season) full length. Its been to Mongolia and all over the Berg in all seasons. After all these years I remain UBER impressed. Highly recommended.
Echo-ing Intrepids comments with a special note: durability is great !!
As with all gear - you get what you pay for and I believe a good mat is worth spending some good $$$ for
Echo-ing Intrepids comments with a special note: durability is great !!
As with all gear - you get what you pay for and I believe a good mat is worth spending some good $$$ for
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21 Dec 2011 17:44 #5170
by dunmor
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Hi Serious Tribe
have you tried your down filled mattress in winter without a gapper mat, and how well does it work compared to a blow up mattress and a gapper mat
have you tried your down filled mattress in winter without a gapper mat, and how well does it work compared to a blow up mattress and a gapper mat
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23 Dec 2011 08:02 - 23 Dec 2011 08:06 #5171
by Serious tribe
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@dunmor. I used it this last July when we went up Cockade Pass without a gapper pad. It was fairly cold, at least 0 degrees at about contour level. We only did a quick day trip up the pass, so did not sleep up there, where it would have been colder. It is rated down to -24 degrees. It is lighter than my kway mattress and very comfortable. Hope this helps.
Here is a review of it - tomsbiketrip.com/2011/07/review-exped-downmat-7-pump-camping-mattress/
Here is a review of it - tomsbiketrip.com/2011/07/review-exped-downmat-7-pump-camping-mattress/
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25 Sep 2012 05:54 #55322
by ClimbyKel
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I just completed my 5th or 6th hike with my Big Agnus mattress. I absolutely love this baby and give it 5 stars. Rolls up tiny, has an insulated core and therefore an R rating of 4.1.
weight = 450+ depends on the lenth. Has a lifetime warrantee, for those of you who think it may start to leek air or puncture. If you read reviews, the only complaint is that it doesn't self-inflate, and is difficult to blow up, but all of those reviews say it's well worth the trouble. I can tell you that it takes me about 2 minutes to blow up my mat, even after a difficult slog up a pass. Not hard! As for comfort, it's wonderful. Because it is thick like an air mattress, it compensates for all the bumps in the dirt. I don't feel the ground at all.
My husband used this mat of mine to sleep on the snow in Canada, so if you want something useful for cold weather hiking, this is your mattress.
weight = 450+ depends on the lenth. Has a lifetime warrantee, for those of you who think it may start to leek air or puncture. If you read reviews, the only complaint is that it doesn't self-inflate, and is difficult to blow up, but all of those reviews say it's well worth the trouble. I can tell you that it takes me about 2 minutes to blow up my mat, even after a difficult slog up a pass. Not hard! As for comfort, it's wonderful. Because it is thick like an air mattress, it compensates for all the bumps in the dirt. I don't feel the ground at all.
My husband used this mat of mine to sleep on the snow in Canada, so if you want something useful for cold weather hiking, this is your mattress.
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02 Oct 2012 20:50 #55365
by dunmor
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I also got an exped down 7 mattress the same as Serious Tribe, only difference is its the extra length and width one. I can say this is an excellent mattress. Rolls really small and is more comfortable than those large blow up mattresses. Rated -24 degrees. I only used it in -6 degrees and it so warm cannot feel any cold. Actually it heats up on the spot you are lying on.
The only disadavantage is its price.
The only disadavantage is its price.
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03 Oct 2012 05:39 #55367
by Sabine
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How much does this Exped down 7 mattress weigh?
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