Winter hiking in the Drakensberg

01 Apr 2010 19:54 #1055 by Frosty Ice
I am new to this forum but have been attempting to get a few peaks in the berg completed before winter sets in. I have done a fair amount of hiking in the southern berg and loads of trad in the SC, but I would like to get into the mountaineering side of things. My aim is to do some of the higher non technical peaks this winter.

Some questions:
Which gear is required other than the standard winter hiking apparal.(ie four season tent, snow boots, gaitors, snow jacket, gloves, snow pants, trekking poles and thermals) Would snow axes be useful, are crampons required for the passes. Is it worth trying to protect the routes.

Secondly which peaks would be the best to start with?

Thirdly if one wanted to do some alpine climbing, are there snow gullys or the like suitible for this?.

Any help is much appreciated!

Frosty

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06 Apr 2010 14:15 #1063 by kliktrak
for more serious climbing and ice climbing suggest contacting the Mountain Club of South Africa:

www.mcsa.org.za

Giants Castle area I know has some good ice climbing spots.

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07 Apr 2010 21:46 - 08 Apr 2010 08:26 #1087 by intrepid
Frosty Ice wrote:

Which gear is required other than the standard winter hiking apparal.(ie four season tent, snow boots, gaitors, snow jacket, gloves, snow pants, trekking poles and thermals) Would snow axes be useful, are crampons required for the passes. Is it worth trying to protect the routes.

Which routes are you referring to exactly? The passes, or climbing routes up technical peaks?
You don't always need crampons and axes (though they would certainly help) - check out Serious Tribe's photo of an ascent of Corner Pass under heavy snow: www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/11-drakensberg-passes/86-corner-pass.html?limit=6&start=6#306
I don't bother with technical gear for winter hikes, though axes are helpful particularly in icy conditions. Have heard of them being used on the Bell Traverse even. I've had to literally climb on smooth water ice on Ifidi Pass before and though I didn't have an axe, it sure would have helped!

Secondly which peaks would be the best to start with?

Are you meaning non-technical peaks as first mentioned? Then Cathedral Peak, Sterkhorn, Twins, Intunja for starters - good scrambling peaks. Some classic hiking peaks would be Cleft Peak, Giants Castle, Champagne Castle, The Rhino, The Devils Knuckles etc. The list is endless.

Thirdly if one wanted to do some alpine climbing, are there snow gullys or the like suitible for this?

After a good snow dump any pass can become a real "alpine" challenge, but you will have to catch it soon after the snowfall before most of it melts. Some of the more challenging passes with narrow gullys like Ifidi, Xeni, Injasuthi etc may provide even more challenge if they are full of snow, though I've never tried them at those times.

Some rock climbing classics like Giants Castle frontal and Cathkin South Gully become classic winter routes given enough snow.

There are some good ice climbing spots on Giants, as already mentioned, and around Sani Pass. Lesotho also offers some ice climbing around Oxbow and Mafika Lisiu / Bokong. The Mountain Club has an annual ice climbing meet in July that you could attend.

Check out the MCSA Winter Route Guide:
www.mcsa.org.za/kzn/ice/BergWinterMenu.html

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
Last edit: 08 Apr 2010 08:26 by intrepid.

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17 May 2011 13:05 #2903 by Frosty Ice
Okay so, winter is coming and we are considering which hike we should do...

Ciretia are as follows roughly:
3 days
A pass of some sort to get above 3000m
No alpine climbing (Although some may be considered)
Decent level of fitness required
A peak would be a bonus
Something that you will remeber all of summer

If there is heavy snow fall can a "path" be followed, or d you have GPS data?

:-)

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20 May 2011 10:13 - 20 May 2011 10:19 #2923 by intrepid
Consider the Giant's Castle area - several good 3 day options there. I tend to save this area for winter because most of the shepherds move away. You can work out various combinations of passes from Judge Pass all the way through to Giants Pass, with some worthy 3000m peaks along the way. Then there is the Giant's Castle massif. The summit itself is a very worthwhile destination - most 3300m+ peaks are away from the edge...not this one! You can use Giants Pass up and down, or combine it with Elandshoek Pass coming down the South Ridge, or do Eastern Gully if you feeling really adventurous (does get filled with snow, requiring gear). You can also check out some of the classic ice routes while there. Mind the violent winds that seem to hammer the massif though. GPS data for many of these passes are in the Downloads section.

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
Last edit: 20 May 2011 10:19 by intrepid.

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23 May 2011 22:47 #2953 by Bigsnake
I suggest Lotheni.It has a far more 'remote' feeling than Giants.
Day1: Up Butress Pass. A doddle really!But gets you to the summit quickly.
Day2:Walk north bagging Redi Peak, 3rd highest.Continue 'north' camping near summit of eNtubeni Pass.
Day3: Down eNtubeni Pass back to Lotheni Main camp.Awesome waterfall en route.
Happy hiking!

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08 Jun 2011 11:38 - 08 Jun 2011 11:41 #3079 by Walk21
Hi all

I am about to go hiking in the Drakensberg this July (4 nights on the mountain). I have only ever done day hikes there in summer, and this time around I would like to be prepared for the cold!

I have a few questions about the kinds of equipment that would be recommended for the winter conditions.

First up is in terms of a sleeping bag. Do you guys have any good recommendations? I would like to find the best, most affordable sleeping bag possible that would serve me well. I would also like to know if it is a good idea to go for maybe a sleeping bag with a rating that is not as good, and then using a liner to fill the gap?

I understand that it is getting to temperatures of around -20 degrees C at night!

The next query is in terms of a tent. Now currently, I have a friend with a 360 degrees Trek 3 tent, which is apparently for the "harsher South African conditions". I read around on a thread earlier discussing tents, but I only saw the Cool Mountain Extreme II and Summit 3 tent being mentioned. Would this Trek 3 be viable for my upcoming hike?

I have a 360 degrees explorer 50 backpack. Is this any good?

Then lastly, I would like to know any further important considerations for clothing. I am planning to buy a decent waterproof breathable jacket and gloves to keep me warm. Would you recommend waterproof breathable trousers? Or could normal long pants work in the winter conditions up on the mountain? And if there are any hiking shoe recommendations that would be much appreciated.

Thank you very much!
Last edit: 08 Jun 2011 11:41 by Walk21.

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08 Jun 2011 14:08 #3082 by ghaznavid
Hi Walk21

Are you sleeping on the escarpment?

I asked the same questions about sleeping bags, lower cost with a liner v higher cost without a liner. I discussed the matter with a person who is very knowledgeable on such matters and he told me that bag liners are a waste of money, a single cotton liner adds 1 or 2 degrees, but those ones that claim to add 15 degrees have never substantiated their claims to this person.

I personally use a K-Way Treklite III tent, its fairly light and high quality, due to circumstance I have never slept on the escarpment in it, but I am told it is good enough for this. You must check up on the security in the area you are sleeping in, you may need a night patrol (especially around Giant's Castle or Amphitheater).

I doubt that you will be able to fit an entire 4-days worth of winter supplies into a 50litre pack, but you will only know whether or not its big enough once you try packing it. If you need a new pack, the best value for money is the K-Way Venture 70, it costs about R900 and has a waterproof cover and all the other things you need on a pack.

For your clothing, ensure you have good thermal underwear (both a thermal vest and thermal long-johns), you need a good thermal fleece and a breathable raincoat is recommended. Once again Cape Union Mart's K-Way has usually got the best range for these items. Also consider getting some gaiters, Trappers sells them for around R80. Gaiters stop your socks from getting wet, they also prevent rocks and thorns from getting into your shoes and stop your shoe laces from untie-ing themselves. Make sure you have a good beanie or balaklava, good gloves are also important. They say the most important layers of clothing are the inner and outer most layer, try to ensure all clothing you buy is wickable (ie moisture controlled) and avoid any form of cotton (as this hold moisture which adds weight and makes you freeze)...

Hi-Tec makes awesome hiking boots, but make sure they are waterproof.

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08 Jun 2011 15:15 #3083 by Walk21
Thank you for the advice. I will be sleeping on the escarpment, I am doing a hike that goes to the top of Cathedral Peak, along with a small group.

Thanks for telling me about the cotton, I was unaware of that and that would have caught me by surprise! Do you think a sleeping bag rated to -8 degrees C would be sufficient? Or would you opt for something better.

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08 Jun 2011 21:27 #3086 by Scag
To be honest, I would never recommend any item carrying the k-way brand. I have never been satisfied with their quality.
Rather spend the extra few bucks on the real equipment like north face or first ascent. In cold weather, you will appreciate the difference in quality.

I prefer good ol' leather boots to the usual textile hitecs. I am yet to see a hitec boot with a closed tongue (but I concede that I have never looked further than cape union mart).

I would say a -8 sleeping bag wouldnt be sufficient enough for a cold night on the top.

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