The Mt Aux Sources - Amphitheatre - Tugela thread

12 Sep 2010 21:41 #1715 by temp1e
thank you bigberg! yours are first positive signs that i can do what I want. tbh I thought that it might be better to start with mount-aux-sources as If time is not enough I can do thugela on the next day and continue in time for the next stop. The only reason I put thugela gorge first is that clouds are more often in the afternoons. So I thought I would have better view on the falls from bellow in the morning and a nice view over the clouds on the top in the afternoon.

to SeriousTribe2:
fitness level is quite good. In my hikes I've only seen one people that can walk faster than me in the mountains in a long trails. Normally I can do 12 hours trail in 6-7 hours (European scaled). I've never climbed Drakensberg before. Also I've never been in Africa below Sahara :)

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13 Sep 2010 12:31 - 14 Sep 2010 09:28 #1720 by intrepid
Hi temp1e and welcome to this forum.

I can totally relate to planning a trip to another country and trying to maximise your time and see as much as possible. I'm sure you've experienced it many times that what you see on a map or read on the web doesn't always give an accurate picture of what its really like out there. Lots of sound info and advice has already been given on this topic, and this seems to have helped you in shaping a more realistic goal.

Your fitness level sounds quite good. If at the time this serves to your advantage in that you manage to do the trails quite quickly - then great! But rather count on this as a bonus. Things don't always go so smoothly in the mountains and even in my own trips, sometimes the combination of weather, difficulty of navigation and terrain, fitness and endurance levels of the group (and most importantly the mood of the group), don't always work well together. Sometimes things work out, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I just plain underestimate my own goals.

I agree with others - I would head up to Sentinel Car Park early in the morning and do that walk first. If you have any time left at all then do the gorge walk later in the day or the next morning. You have a higher chance of walking in the clouds up there than above them.

Also when you say you want to climb Mont-Aux-Sources, do you mean that you simply want to hike up the escarpment via the Chain Ladders and go see the Falls, or do you literally mean that you want to include the summit peak of Mont-Aux-Sources in your trip? The former is very popular with a pretty good trail all the way. The latter is less popular and there is not much of a trail taking you to the top. Its still possible to do all of that in one day, but it makes the day considerably longer.

Can I enter the park in the very early morning?

Gate times are 06h00-22h00
Check out www.kznwildlife.com/index.php?/Royal-Natal-National-Park.html

Can I reach thendele hutted camp with a car?

Yes, but as already mentioned by drsnoobab, there is a car park before that camp where you would start walking from.

In the early November are the roads going to be good still?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't be concerned about the road - agree with bigberg. Occasionally under heavy snow this road gets problematic (June-August) and the heavy rains tend to be around February. The road is paved with bricks up to Witsieshoek Resort and very pleasant to drive. After that its steep, bumpy dirt, with one short section which typically is rough but nothing major. Shortly before the car park it is paved once again. Note that you pay R15 pp at gate at the bottom.

How much km are from Sentinel to the top?

Its about 6.3km from the car park to Tugela Falls via the Chain Ladder, according to my GPS tracks, so that agrees well with bigberg's 5km to the top (at the Chain Ladders). Typically 2.5-3 hours of walking, though this can be quicker or slower depending on your fitness level and pack weight.

What is the attitude of the Sentinel car park.

Yep, my GPS measures around 2550m.

There are 2 mentioned paths from Mahai camp via Basuto gate to Witzieshoek Resort and from Mahai via the Neck to Sentinel Car Park road. They have a gps tracks also. The second path is stated closed. How is the current condition with those 2 paths? I hope at least one of them is opened so I don't need to drive 2 more hours

As mentioned already, walking up to the car park is not the best option for you and would take you much longer anyway. Much better to drive and you'll have more energy. For the record, you'd need to walk to Witsieshoek Resort from the bottom and then along the dirt road from there. The trail up to The Neck has been closed, yes, in order to let it rehabilitate after many years of frequent use. Its not that far from the resort anyway.

Is it easy to get lost there without gps tracks?

How well are marked the trails there. I really don't need marks for my first part as it winds around the river. Is it easy to follow the path (Sentinel Car Park to the top of the summit) If it is not marked?

If you are just going to the Falls via the Chain Ladders, the path is well established. However, generally speaking, yes, it is easy to get lost in the Drakensberg, especially on the escarpment, and especially if you are unfamiliar with the area. Make sure you can find your way back to the Chain Ladder when you are on top. It also gets very misty and visibility can be reduced to 20-30m. Don't underestimate this.

In my travel guide I found that only 50 people can climb to mount-aux-sources daily. Is this limitation true and how they count the people wishing to go there?

I don't think the guys at the car park regulate this, especially if you are not staying overnight. We were there a week ago for the Sentinel Centenary Climb and there were a lot more than 50 people around.

You have already been warned about potential security problems up there. Be sure to read some of the security related articles on this site. Don't leave your gear unattended.

Also be aware of the dangers in these mountains. Over the years several lives have been lost in various incidents on the trail between Sentinel Car Park and Tugela Falls. Take adequate mountain gear with you, extra food, headlamp, good map, and also a cell phone (write down the phone numbers and note the rescue procedure which should be posted in the car park office where you sign the rescue register).

I hope you have a fantastic trip to South Africa! Please do post back on this thread afterward and let us know how it all went and what your experiences were. We hope that the Drakensberg will leave you as enchanted as the rest of us are on this forum!

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
Last edit: 14 Sep 2010 09:28 by intrepid.

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14 Sep 2010 11:19 #1729 by fatshark
@Temp1e

First up, can I salute your spirit of adventure. Its great to see someone who has never having been south of the the Sahara, planning a trip in the mountains we all love so much. And your wisdom in getting as much local knowledge as possible. Good on you.

My main point is to raise the issue of altitude. You mentioned in reply to ST2 that you are very fit and have experience in European mountains. What would these be - hopefully the Alps, or the Pyrenees? Some of those other Euro "mountain" ranges are a bit on the low side, especially in Britain, so a word of caution in exerting yourself too much too quickly if you are not accustomed to doing so at altitude.

I took a mate from the UK up the Berg two years ago, who is very fit, far fitter than me, he hikes almost every weekend, but the highest point he had been to was Snowdon at just over 1000m, and he lives at close to sea level. We started hiking at Cathedral Peak Hotel (at about 1300m). The altitude really got to him the closer we got to 3000m, and after reaching the summit he was suffering with exhaustion, headaches, nausea and diarrhea. We had to change our plans and hike down as quickly as possible.

It was a wake-up call to all of us how the altitude debilitated such a fit and experienced hiker. If you are planning on hiking alone, these effects would be especially bad news. Trying to negotiate the chain ladder alone in that state would not be fun. Hopefully by driving to Sentinel Car Park and doing that part first, you'll reduce your exertion and have a fantastic hike.

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14 Sep 2010 23:52 #1735 by temp1e
thank you for the advice fatshark.

I'm from Bulgaria.

Bulgaria first peak is Musala in Rila mountain - 2925m (been there many times), It's the highest on Balkan peninsula also. Higher than legendary famous peak Olymp in Greece (Zeus home)
Bulgarian second highest peak is Vihren in Pirin mountain 2914m (been there even more than Musala)
I've covered almost every single peak above 2800m in Bulgaria (more than 20). I believe that Bulgarian peaks are harder to hike compared to South Africa peaks as here heavy snow is until May and there are snow patches all year round. (May here is in the start of the summer)
Also Bulgarian top 7 mountains are above 2k and I didn't hike only the 6th and 7th yet.

Never been above 3k though. The only time I tried it was in Vietnam but the peak was closed due to very hot weather and fire awareness. Had a chance in Spain also but gf decided else and I only reached near 2.5k in Guadalajara mountain.

By the way here are some photos of Bulgarian mountains. Albums are randomized :)
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20100130Triglav#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20090829Bansko#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20080531Vihren#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20081213Borovets2#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20090620RilaStrashnoEzero#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20090801Dobrinishte2#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20100502Belmeken#
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/20091212Perushtica#

More on:
picasaweb.google.com/boyan.dimitrov/

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15 Sep 2010 09:43 - 15 Sep 2010 09:49 #1737 by intrepid
Thanks for posting those links temp1e, I enjoyed the photos! No doubt you have spent some time in the mountains. Please take our advice and caution as friendly concern. We see far too many people set off on the trail to the Amphitheatre who are ignorant of the mountains.

I've had an idea of how you will make your intended walks a whole lot more manageable in one day. I don't know where you were intending to spend the night before, but you could drive up to Witsieshoek Resort that night instead. From there its under half and hour drive to the car park. You could get going very early in the morning and do the walk to the Falls up the Chain Ladders. From there you'd drive to RNNP and do the Gorge Walk with the time that is left. This way the day is a lot more enjoyable and do-able. They only serve breakfast there at 7 though, so you'd either have to skip it or eat it very quickly.

You can also sleep at Sentinel Car Park. Very basic dormitory with bunk beds. No electricity and sometimes no water. And you'd have to bring along your own food and sleeping bag.

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
Last edit: 15 Sep 2010 09:49 by intrepid.

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15 Sep 2010 11:22 #1741 by fatshark
those pics are awesome, Temp1e. Bulgaria has very beautiful mountains!

Agree with Intrepid's suggestion. Witsieshoek Mountain Resort is basic accommodation for a resort, but reasonably priced and comfortable and a short drive from the car park. Just one suggestion, if one of your goals is to get above 3000m then do pop up the Western Buttress (the slope on your left as you walk from the Chain Ladders to the Falls). The view is worth the little effort. Or if you get off to an early start, you could do Mont-aux-Sources instead - be aware this will add an extra hour or so and is not advisable if there is mist about.

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15 Sep 2010 12:04 #1742 by temp1e
I basically got the idea thanks to all of you who posted. Now let's hope for a good weather :)

For security I'll see what I can do additionally. I might take an wooden club with me for better security. Will use it like a walking stick also.

By the way can anyone advice me where is the best view point toward the falls? And also am I going to see the full length of the fall while on Mount-aux-sources track.

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21 Sep 2010 20:44 #1763 by SeriousTribe2
Hi Temp1e

Sorry for the late reply.

Sounds like you have all the advice you need.
I had asked about your fitness level; and the reason for your desire to complete the two routes in one day; thinking that you might be after a particular challenge.
There used to be a route just south of the Gudu Pass up to Witzieshoek Resort.
It went in the opposite direction to the Tunel and the base of the Falls.
There also used to be a run, from Royal Natal NP, up Gudu pass to Witsieshoek, on to the carpark, up the ladder and down via Buttress Gully, to car park and back to RNNP, in a day [and for some a few hours no doubt].
I thought you might be after something similar. I am not sure if this event still takes place but it was deff for the SERIOUSLY-FIT-MARGINALLY-INSANE-ENDORPHIN-ADDICT.
If you can take in the summit of Mont-aux-sources, that would be a Gold. At 3200+ it is what we locals refer to as a 'Khulu'. A Big One.

I am sure you will be successful based on the feedback, and your research.
If you are concerned for your safety, I suggest pepper spray. I feel it would be a better idea than trying to beat a local Basutho herdsman at a stick fight.
Unless you have Ninja skills. They are born with stick in hand!

Enjoy the Dragon Mountains. It is a sacred place.

Respect.

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21 Sep 2010 21:19 - 01 Oct 2010 11:24 #1764 by intrepid
SeriousTribe2 wrote:

There also used to be a run, from Royal Natal NP, up Gudu pass to Witsieshoek, on to the carpark, up the ladder and down via Buttress Gully, to car park and back to RNNP, in a day [and for some a few hours no doubt]. I thought you might be after something similar. I am not sure if this event still takes place but it was deff for the SERIOUSLY-FIT-MARGINALLY-INSANE-ENDORPHIN-ADDICT.

Yep, it still takes place and has just been recently. See the latest blogs.


temp1e wrote:

By the way can anyone advice me where is the best view point toward the falls? And also am I going to see the full length of the fall while on Mount-aux-sources track.

At the falls, if you walk a few hundred meters away on either side, along the edge, you will get to fairly good view points for the upper half of the falls. I don't think there is a place where you can see the full length, it cascades too much.

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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22 Sep 2010 09:43 #1767 by Sterkhorn
Hi temp1e

temp1e wrote:

By the way can anyone advice me where is the best view point toward the falls? And also am I going to see the full length of the fall while on Mount-aux-sources track.

Intrepid wrote:

I don't think there is a place where you can see the full length, it cascades too much.

I have a slide that I took some years back which captures most of the falls. It was taken near the far end of the ridge coming down from Crow's Nest that runs behind the hut. Just keep following the ridge away from the falls till just before descending into the next valley. I will try and find the slide sometime to post.

temp1e wrote:

Second I found that between Thendele and bottom of the falls are 7km mostly on flat terrain. I want to be at sun rise at the falls bottom.

Just a note; the 7km ends just past the gorge tunnel, not at the base of the falls. Access to the falls is still a couple of kilometres further by way of boulder hopping, not a trail. The falls are visible, however, from just past the tunnel.

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