Injisuthi security

15 Aug 2011 09:45 - 15 Aug 2011 09:49 #3671 by intrepid
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Welcome to the forum Alan.

Corner Pass is scrambly but many hikers get up it. You don't have to be a climber. The current question is just how much snow and ice it has, though should improve by September. There are 2-3 good forum threads on this pass with pictures, should be easily found using search. Lots of reading there, and if you have more questions on the pass, feel free to post them on those threads. Also, due to the popularity of the Corner-Mafadi-Leslies loop, I have bookmarked pages with good info on the area, so go through those links (21 currently):
www.delicious.com/tag/Centenary-Hut-Corner-Pass-Mafadi-Leslies-Pass

Boerkie said:

In my mind I'm starting to form a clear picture of the Modus operandi of the smugglers although they will change this to suit conditions and most definitely from intel they receive from look-outs,scouts, villagers, Shepards and dare I say it,officials. It would be a mistake thinking of these guys as barefoot untrained locals looking to make a "quick" buck. These smuggling trips are planed and orchestrated almost like military operations,with exception to the rule, and probably by ex military trained personnel of either MK or SANDF.

Quite correct. And bad weather / winter does not hinder them either. Smuggling season is in full swing currently.

These soldiers were "dumped" in Lesotho by pre and post apartheid governments. I feel sorry for them as I have a world of respect for these soldiers. Now to think that they have to scratch a living for themselves in a foreign country, why not get involved in carrying a couple of bags across the border and again win the fight against old enemies? This might be speculation on my part but I'm pretty sure I'm hitting the nail on the head.

I have heard speculative, but probably fairly accurate comments, based on various encounters, that individuals from Lesotho's army are involved.

Will the smuggling ever stop? The answer is very easy, NO! It will never stop.How serious is SAPS/SANDF about border control? It is non-existent and a joke at best.

History of cross-border problems in the Berg spans well over a century! It is not quite as easy to control as we might think, but yes, the problem is not taken seriously enough. Cattle rustling is taken more seriously. Efforts are made, largely under the radar of public awareness, with some success stories. Allocated resources and manpower is limited. There are people out there who are trying to do something about it and who take it seriously. But a more realistic expectation for now is that the smuggling will be more contained and slowed down, rather than stopped.

All this being said I getting the idea that the crime that effects hikers security in the berg is NOT committed by the smugglers but by a few opportunistic individuals and these probably being shepards or plain straight forward criminals.I would love to hear your thoughts on this. I can live with sharing the berg with smugglers if we can co-exist peacefully. But make no mistake, try and steal my equipment and I'll come down on you from a dizzy height swinging a what ever "moering" tool I can find.

True, shepherds are more of a problem. However, smugglers have stolen stuff (there was new case about a month ago) and there have been confrontations - particularly around Organ Pipes. I had my own scary encounter years back while solo hiking in the area. Even if they don't do anything to us, the picture that armed drug smugglers are running around these mountains is a very wrong one. But as long as we are not a threat to them, it sort of works.

What would you guys that have had close contact with them say is the average age of these smuggler groups?

Have encountered teenagers, and men who were in their 30s and 40s. Women too. Some are intelligent, friendly and speak English. I'd say the main age range is probably mostly 20-30, difficult to say for sure though

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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08 Jun 2012 16:44 #54249 by timmyw
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I'm a relative newcomer to hiking, last month my son (15 years old) and I hiked from Injisuthi Hutted camp, up Cataract, and spent the night in the open at the top of a valley at the base of Woman Grinding Corn. We thoroughly enjoyed it (especially sleeping out) and returned back safe and sound (although pretty tired)

We're planning a three day/two night hike at the beginning of July, starting from the same point, overnighting at Lower Injisuthi Cave and then at (or next to) Centenary Hut on the second night.

After spending some time reading through security related posts on this site (and a couple of others), I'm a little concerned, and wondered if anyone had any recent experience of the area or had some advice for us.

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08 Jun 2012 17:21 #54250 by ghaznavid
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Hi, welcome to the forum :thumbsup:

I haven't come across many security issues in the small berg in this area. Quite honestly I spent a night in the area on the escarpment just over a month ago, we were in sight of a Basothu home (which we only saw the next morning), we saw the smoke from their fires and heard their fake jackal calls and everything. No issues or anything, and that was just over the border into Lesotho. In addition to this, during winter there are usually less problems than in summer...

In summary, you should be ok...

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08 Jun 2012 18:16 #54251 by Smurfatefrog
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You shouldn't have any issues around Lower Injisuti cave. Smugglers have been known to use Judge & Corner pass though which takes them past Centenary Hut, they are generally not a problem though. You could also consider your 2nd night at Marble Baths cave

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09 Jun 2012 05:11 #54252 by timmyw
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Thanks for the comments and advice. All we need to hope for now is decent weather. Thanks again

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09 Jun 2012 08:39 #54253 by diverian
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Hi timmyw done loads of hiking in this area, day hikes overnight stays in all the caves , high berg and hut and have never had any security issues. Have seen traces, litter, of smugglers on Judges Pass and in Dinosaur cave. Enjoy the hike.

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09 Jun 2012 10:06 #54255 by tiska
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Hi TimmyW
The advice is all good - Inijisuthi is definitely one of the better areas for security. If you wanted to be completely sure then work to the north of the area rather than around Centenary/Corner/Judges pass. Smugglers don't typically use Leslies or Ships Prow which cuts you a nice empty part of the Berg.

One option is to consider going up van Heynengens and around through the bottom of Ships Prow. There are nice views from the ridge that runs up to Cathkin. Another would be a circuit on to Marble Baths and or Lower Injisuthi from the ridge above Grindstone.

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20 Jun 2012 22:06 #54455 by Sterkhorn
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Not sure if this indicates occassional use of Leslies Pass by the smugglers (maybe a botched attempt). I still see no definite indication that it is really used. This was seen in the rock gulley as you begin the Pass proper.

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21 Jun 2012 13:53 #54471 by intrepid
Replied by intrepid on topic Injisuthi security
Uh oh...I rather liked the idea that they were not using Leslies. It may well have been used on occasion. Wind could not have blown bits of the bags as well as the scarf there.

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11 Jul 2012 08:33 #54606 by BlackRaven
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We slept in Centenary hut in September, as well as March before heading to Corner in the morning. In September smugglers used the hut for shelter in the night, they realised we were there and kicked in the door of the little room on the side of the hut and slept there. In March we heard them outside, once again they realised the hut was in use and they avoided us.

A fellow hiker who slept at the bottom of corner confirmed in the morning that he'd heard them coming past in the night, but he also had no issues.

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