Backpacks

08 Dec 2011 14:23 #5135 by ghaznavid
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I have seriously considered going the inflatable mattress route before, but there is 1 major reason I never went ahead with it - an extra 600g on my pack (I can't see how a high density foam matress could weigh more than 200g).

Just checked the CUM website, I see they have a First Ascent mat that is 352g. However, this mat is only 119cm long and therefore not much use for non-children...

What I also found interesting is that K-Way's standard self inflating mat is 600g but their Fast n' Lite one is 730g (although the latter it is bigger).

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08 Dec 2011 21:18 #5138 by Serious tribe
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Why not weigh the foam mattress. I suppose it is comfort verses weight...sad, but you can't have your cake and eat it :thumbsdown: Always thought that this was a stupid expression, whats the point of having the cake in the first place ;)

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30 Dec 2011 04:23 #5188 by intrepid
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@ghaznavid: you have a very valid point - many of the sleeping pads on the market are much heavier than the good old foam mattresses. This should be considered if you are trying to keep the pack weight down to a minimum. However, those mats are not great insulation in the winter. And of course, they are a lot more uncomfortable. I spent many a hike on them, some of the them up to 3 weeks long in Nepal. The discomfort issues seem to increase over time and frequency of use. The overall experience of the trip improved in quality when I switched to a Thermarest because I slept better. Generally I am into light-weight, minimalistic stuff, but this really improved the overall experience. These days the manually inflating pads are getting much lighter anyway, in the 400g range (full-length and 4-season rating). And the added bonus is that it fits right into your pack, making for a more efficient and stream-lined shape sitting on your back, thus bringing us back to the topic.

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11 Jan 2012 15:41 #5267 by Klipspringer
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Affordable, Lightweight, Strong/durable - only two of the three is available at once.

I see some members mention the Backpacker backpacks - when they still existed, they carried a lifetime guarantee that was hounoured. It weighs a ton and last a century. Compare the material of the CUM bags with the old Karrimor and Backpacker bags - you'll notice the difference. don't go trailbreaking through dense bushes with the CUM bags - they rip from sharp branches and thorns.

Incidently, Backpacker is defunct and Karrimor is now a different company from the one we grew up with. Some chinese company bought the name.

For bigger packs consider what you want to use it for - hiking, those side pockets sticking out is nice. climbing through cracks and gorges those side pockets get stuck everywhere.

Water resistant is a marketing phrase. It means if you spill your cup things will not be too wet. Zips leak.

I've have Lowe Alpine, Berghaus, Mammut and Bckpacker bags. they all last very well and have been seriously abused. the Lowe Alpine 65 + 15 litre is the lightest of the big bags but also shows the wear and tear the fastest. Also the one I use the most.

But in the end there is a big consideration facter: Personal preference. Like cars, a german luxuary car is nice but the Datsun 1400 also gets you from A to B.

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11 Jan 2012 17:37 #5269 by Beuler
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Some good advise, thanks! Not sure one can get a Datsun around anymore :P

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11 Jan 2012 18:18 #5271 by intrepid
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I have yet to get a first hand experience in this, but Osprey now offers what they call the "All Mighty Guarantee":

Osprey will repair for any reason, free of charge, any damage or defect in our product – whether it was purchased in 1974 or yesterday. If we are unable to perform a functional repair on your pack, we will happily replace it. We proudly stand behind this guarantee, so much so that it bears the signature of company founder and head designer, Mike Pfotenhauer.

www.ospreypacks.com/en/web/all_mighty_guarantee

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12 Jan 2012 05:15 #5272 by DeonS
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I still have the old backpacker packs - but switched to the Deuter and very happy, a bit heavy, more hardwearing than the CUM range, but a lot more comfy and a lot cooler than the backpackers ever were. Ony one else using them?

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17 Jan 2012 10:25 #52912 by intrepid
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@DeonsS: I've used a Deuter ACT Lite 40+10 for several years now and very happy with it. As a result one of my Berg buddies is using an identical one, and two others got themselves the fancier (and heavier) versions that you are probably referring to. My Deuter is nice and light (a little over 1.6 kg) and has more space than the rating suggests (I even use it for multi-day winter trips with thicker down bag and down jacket etc). It has taken a fair amount of abuse from lots of sun (the colours bleached quite a bit now), plenty of ploughing through bushes and even sliding down snow slopes on it in Canada. It does have a small tear at the bottom right now which I need to patch, but I think that is acceptable wear and tear. Definitely a solid purchase by a reputable, international manufacturer. :thumbsup:

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23 Oct 2012 14:53 #55499 by Digz
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I was looking at the Deuter ACT lite 65+10 backpack...www.deuter.com/en_US/backpack-details.php?category=120&artnr=43770

I see it is about 1kg lighter than the Deuter Air Contact 65+10 that CUM sells. Great reviews and great pack. CUM doesn't include it in their range (they only go up to the 40l ACT Lite, why they only stock half the Deuter range beats me!)

Anyway, I asked them if they could order me one, they came back saying that I would need to pay 50% upfront, it would take up to 3 months and there would be no returns. I can buy one from REI online store and get it cheaper within 2 weeks. (And as limiting as it is, they do offer a return option).

As the countries supposed leading outdoor chain, who are the distributor and retailer of Deuter packs, I'm shocked that one has such limited choice options...and walk into most shops they only have "some" of the range instore.

Anyway...just my late afternoon rant ha ha...
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28 Feb 2013 14:15 - 28 Feb 2013 14:17 #56121 by Josh of the Bushveld
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Hi anthony, I know its a bit late to respond. I had the exact same problem as you, I wanted the 65+10 ACT Lite (for the weight benefit) but couldn't find it in SA. CUM were useless in helping me.
I got in touch with Deuter in Europe, and they mentioned that that model is not in the European range, but rather part of the US range. CUM import the EU range it seems.

Anyway, I got lucky in that a good mate was coming over from Chicago, and he agreed to bring the pack for me. I bought it on Amazon (along with a rain cover) and got it shipped to him, without hassle.

I've done one 2-night, hutted trail with it so far, and I'm very very happy at the moment. Busy planning some more trips this year with it. Its low-frils, has no bells and whistles, but its very comfortable and of course the weight saving is massive.

BTW this is my 4th Deuter pack (laptop bag, travel backpack, small hydration pack and now this one) and I won't buy another brand at this stage. Unfortunately my smaller 40l pack is a Vaude, and its not as comfortable.
Last edit: 28 Feb 2013 14:17 by Josh of the Bushveld.

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