The Pine Tree Project
09 Apr 2010 11:27 #1110
by tiska
Replied by tiska on topic The Pine Tree Project
A brief comment on the pines in Cathedral Peak. Going back to the 1950s, an area of about 100 ha was aforested with pine (pinus patula) in the catchment just beyond Mike's Pass. The streamflow was monitored and by the 1970s, the flow had reduced considerably as the trees had reached maturity and were transpiring a lot of water. The forest idea was abondoned because of the negative impact on the water resources and the trees progressively removed from the 1980s or so. I'd guess the remaining distant pines stem from the 4 decades of pine forest. I find it surprising that there aren't even more pines in the areas reported by BergAttie. I wonder how agressively they spread? Not that I am advocating leaving them there.
There was also a large area of trees near where the golf course is at CP (can't remember if these were pines).
There was also a large area of trees near where the golf course is at CP (can't remember if these were pines).
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09 Apr 2010 11:49 - 24 May 2013 08:05 #1112
by intrepid
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
Replied by intrepid on topic The Pine Tree Project
Lets keep this idea going then. Dom, also await your feedback from the alien invasive co-ordinator - can you bounce the idea of us doing it on a volunteer basis on them too, and get guidelines from them about effective ringbarking and/or poisoning?
@mnt_tiska: yep these pines must be the remnant of the forestry days. The rehabilitated areas are still struggling - see pic near Thuthumi lookout hut below:
Thankfully a lot of pines have been cut down, like the ones at the CP golf course, and around Monks Cowl camp.
Pics below of the pines on Thuthumi and Ndedema. Anyone else that has pics and/or GPS co-ordinates of alien growth, please post it here.
@mnt_tiska: yep these pines must be the remnant of the forestry days. The rehabilitated areas are still struggling - see pic near Thuthumi lookout hut below:
Thankfully a lot of pines have been cut down, like the ones at the CP golf course, and around Monks Cowl camp.
Pics below of the pines on Thuthumi and Ndedema. Anyone else that has pics and/or GPS co-ordinates of alien growth, please post it here.
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09 Apr 2010 11:54 #1113
by BergAttie
Replied by BergAttie on topic The Pine Tree Project
The area where the Gof course is now was Black Wattle mostly. Pine trees don't spread as agressivley as for instance wattle and blue gum - especially in colder environments. Pince seeds can be distributed over large distances though due to their winged seeds. There are large Sappi plantations about 30km's from Cathedral as teh crow flies - these will constantly seed the area. Once they have taken hold it is a problem - the longer it is left the more work and money to get rid of them. Pince
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09 Apr 2010 13:22 #1114
by Stijn
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Hey - I love the idea of a VE pine hack! As BergAttie says, it would be a great way to give something back and an excellent excuse to meet up and explore the little berg some more 
Agreed on that we should co-ordinate with the current EKZNW initiatives and ensure the proper techniques are used. Keep us posted - I'm in
Agreed on that we should co-ordinate with the current EKZNW initiatives and ensure the proper techniques are used. Keep us posted - I'm in
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09 Apr 2010 13:27 #1115
by gollum
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Yes, BergAttie has a good point there. If possible, I'm in as well.
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09 Apr 2010 13:55 #1116
by tiska
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There are also some big planations (not sure if they are pine) near
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that is east of Monks Cowl and 16 km from the escarpment in the Injesuthi/Monks Cowl boundary.
I wondered if anyone had seen alien vege in this area?
29 02 11 S
29 29 29 E
that is east of Monks Cowl and 16 km from the escarpment in the Injesuthi/Monks Cowl boundary.
I wondered if anyone had seen alien vege in this area?
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09 Apr 2010 16:31 #1120
by BergAttie
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I like the moment building here guys! Lets wait to hear back from EKZNW via domsmooth. If no action from them and we can help I offer to coordinate teh project from Estcourt. I will eb able to get some locals involved as well.
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03 Jun 2010 09:33 #1339
by BergAttie
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Any feedback yet domsmooth?
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14 Jun 2010 21:23 #1388
by intrepid
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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My understanding is that the response is positive, but it seems to need time to go through the proper channels. We'll see.
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03 Jul 2010 14:00 #1436
by domsmooth
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So far the response has been incredibly positive. There are obviously a couple of things that need to be ironed out, since this is a potentially hazardous exercise, and there are certain protocols Ezemvelo has in place in terms of their own alien clearing projects. I am just awaiting further clarity on that before I can give the go ahead to Attie to begin the co-ordination of VEs efforts (Thx Attie... :grin:).
I am really pleased as well with the apparent energy the members of this forum have thrown their weight behind this. I am stoked that there are so many who would be willing to give of their time to help maintain the Berg in a pristine state.
Watch this space.
I am really pleased as well with the apparent energy the members of this forum have thrown their weight behind this. I am stoked that there are so many who would be willing to give of their time to help maintain the Berg in a pristine state.
Watch this space.
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