Magaliesberg
14 Feb 2011 10:29 - 14 Feb 2011 10:30 #2392
by intrepid
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I've often wondered how many members of this community have an interest in the Magaliesberg?
I happen to live close to this mountain and thoroughly appreciate its beauty, wildlife, fantastic kloofs, clear water, big pools and superb quality rock to climb on. I've never given this little mountain range much attention on this site because of the relatively small community interested in it and also because so much of it is privately owned and access so much more restricted. Information and knowledge on it is also fairly exclusive.
You may be aware that the Magaliesberg over the years has faced several significant battles as it concerns crime against hikers and climbers, and faces many environmental pressures and problems, several of which are downright criminal. These battles have caused me to consider dedicating some sort of Magaliesberg-focus on this site, especially as it concerns security and environmental issues (which is incidentally one of the foundational reasons why this site was started: security and environmental issues in the Drakensberg).
So, I'd like to hear how many from this site have any interest whatsoever in the Magaliesberg? Also curious to know how much info you already get from the excellent updates already posted on sites such as ClimbZA? The idea would be to support and supplement the commendable efforts already being made by several individuals.
I happen to live close to this mountain and thoroughly appreciate its beauty, wildlife, fantastic kloofs, clear water, big pools and superb quality rock to climb on. I've never given this little mountain range much attention on this site because of the relatively small community interested in it and also because so much of it is privately owned and access so much more restricted. Information and knowledge on it is also fairly exclusive.
You may be aware that the Magaliesberg over the years has faced several significant battles as it concerns crime against hikers and climbers, and faces many environmental pressures and problems, several of which are downright criminal. These battles have caused me to consider dedicating some sort of Magaliesberg-focus on this site, especially as it concerns security and environmental issues (which is incidentally one of the foundational reasons why this site was started: security and environmental issues in the Drakensberg).
So, I'd like to hear how many from this site have any interest whatsoever in the Magaliesberg? Also curious to know how much info you already get from the excellent updates already posted on sites such as ClimbZA? The idea would be to support and supplement the commendable efforts already being made by several individuals.
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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14 Feb 2011 10:42 #2393
by spook
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I certainly have an ongoing interest in the Magaliesberg, primarily due to its proximity to jhb. The MCSA has access to a number of spectacular gorges for climbing, hiking etc and I will use this as an ideal tramping ground for my kids to get out into the hills.
There have been some unfortunate incidents that threaten the safety of certain areas and it would be good to have some place to get the objective versions of these. As you note, however, this is dependent on a crtical mass of interest.
It might be sensible to include a link (www.climb.co.za/forum/index.php) rather than replicate what is already there?
Spook
There have been some unfortunate incidents that threaten the safety of certain areas and it would be good to have some place to get the objective versions of these. As you note, however, this is dependent on a crtical mass of interest.
It might be sensible to include a link (www.climb.co.za/forum/index.php) rather than replicate what is already there?
Spook
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14 Feb 2011 16:31 #2398
by drsnoobab
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Would definitely support the idea, like yourself being based in the immediate vicinity ... land and access being my biggest headache - often have the inspiration to head for the hills on a Sunday morning, and then don't really know where to go ! Recently had the unpleasant experience of being read the riot act for trespassing by a local landowner, whilst having actually paid the neighbouring farmer an access fee to make use of his mountain bike trail, which incidentally crossed the angry guy's farm !
If I may take the liberty of raising the first question then (as a demonstration of the need for such a forum !
) ... can anyone comment on the viability (access / ownership issues) of doing a day summit round-trip to Nooitgedacht Towers by parking at Mountain Sanctuary Park ? The first leg as far as Red Gulley is doable (MCSA member) but thereafter I am unsure of access issues ? Not to worry about the distance and navigation for now ...
If I may take the liberty of raising the first question then (as a demonstration of the need for such a forum !
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15 Feb 2011 06:16 #2406
by Stijn
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Being based in JHB, I too find myself in the Magaliesberg on plenty of weekends. Mainly climbing at Chosspile (until all the recent security issues) but also the occasional kloofing trip - Grootkloof with the waterfall abseil is my favourite, especially as a full moon trip! 
I agree that the climbing content on ClimbZA should not be replicated but perhaps some info about recommended hikes and kloofing trips could be included on this site? It would be important to include all permit and access details as we don't want to encourage any trespassing.
I agree that the climbing content on ClimbZA should not be replicated but perhaps some info about recommended hikes and kloofing trips could be included on this site? It would be important to include all permit and access details as we don't want to encourage any trespassing.
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15 Feb 2011 08:41 #2411
by Frosty Ice
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Yip, often climbing in the kloofs there, awesome! Be interested in Crime in Tonquani and Cederburg especially, Chosspile isnt worth the risk at the momement for me, Bronkies is about the same distance
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15 Feb 2011 22:26 #2417
by Serious tribe
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Perhaps there can be a new sub-heading in addition to Drakensberg, Everest etc?
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16 Feb 2011 11:58 #2421
by intrepid
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Thanks for all replies so far.
Certainly the good updates on ClimbZA shouldn't be replicated, unless the authors want a broader web-publicity. This was the case with the dubious Kgaswane Lodge issue:
www.vertical-endeavour.com/general/53-environment/166-mpa-statement-on-kgaswane-lodge-august-2010.html
(which reminds me, I should get an update from them)
This is also why I am curious to know how many members on this site also follow ClimbZA.
There are definitely topics that could be covered here which are not addressed elsewhere.
Another issue, or consideration, is that some of the land-owners and stakeholders don't necessarily want the web-publicity and increased visitors.
Yes we could certainly create a dedicated for the Magaliesberg. In any case, this site already has a "General" section in the blogs, forums, downloads and galleries - and this is open for a broad range of topics and mountains.
Any further comments on this?
Certainly the good updates on ClimbZA shouldn't be replicated, unless the authors want a broader web-publicity. This was the case with the dubious Kgaswane Lodge issue:
www.vertical-endeavour.com/general/53-environment/166-mpa-statement-on-kgaswane-lodge-august-2010.html
(which reminds me, I should get an update from them)
This is also why I am curious to know how many members on this site also follow ClimbZA.
There are definitely topics that could be covered here which are not addressed elsewhere.
Another issue, or consideration, is that some of the land-owners and stakeholders don't necessarily want the web-publicity and increased visitors.
Yes we could certainly create a dedicated for the Magaliesberg. In any case, this site already has a "General" section in the blogs, forums, downloads and galleries - and this is open for a broad range of topics and mountains.
Any further comments on this?
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17 Feb 2011 22:28 #2431
by Serious tribe
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I would say that the thoughts of the land-owners and other stake holders need to be taken into consideration. I don't know what the situation is with this, however, you don't want to cheese them off.
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01 Mar 2011 14:12 #2487
by intrepid
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Right, here it is:
www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/37-magaliesberg.html
Single category for now which can be expanded as it grows. drsnoobab, feel free to post your question regarding access there.
I think we can safely focus on certain areas and activities here without stepping on any toes. The areas that don't want publicity don't need to get it, and the others that do can get it. Good topics to cover are hiking, kloofing, security and environmental.
Categories will also be created in the galleries, blogs and downloads. So, if you have anything to share or write (like kloofing write-ups, Stijn,
), go for it.
www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/37-magaliesberg.html
Single category for now which can be expanded as it grows. drsnoobab, feel free to post your question regarding access there.
I think we can safely focus on certain areas and activities here without stepping on any toes. The areas that don't want publicity don't need to get it, and the others that do can get it. Good topics to cover are hiking, kloofing, security and environmental.
Categories will also be created in the galleries, blogs and downloads. So, if you have anything to share or write (like kloofing write-ups, Stijn,
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