Drakensberg weather sites

05 Oct 2010 18:54 #1872 by intrepid
Afriski weather:
www.afriski.net/#/weather
Gives 5 day forecast for morning and evening. Includes rain/snow prediction and windchill. Also indicates the state of the road and Moteng Pass leading to the resort, particularly if it is drivable due to snow.
While the weather on the escarpment might not be the same as a little further inland, it remains a useful indicator for the Northern Berg and the Lesotho Highlands in general.

Phoning this number gives a 5 day forecast: 082 2311 602
Useful if you are in the Berg and want to check the weather quick without browsing.

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05 Oct 2010 21:47 - 05 Oct 2010 21:49 #1873 by tiska
Replied by tiska on topic Re: Drakensberg weather sites
Here are some brief and general comments on the way the weather sites work. I'm commenting because weather and climate is my day job.

Some of the weather observations made by weather services around the world are sent to satellite and from there are received by any participating institute. The rule is that you can receive data as long as you send some observations. The system is called GTS. More details here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Telecommunications_System



The reason all these data exchanges happen is that the main weather forecast centres need current global weather observations to make weather forecasts. The weather observations are entered into the numerical models of the atmosphere and these models are then moved forward (integrated) in time to make the forecasts. Errors in the observations are large enough for the forecasts to go horribly wrong after about 6 days.

Many institutions around the world make forecasts from these models. This is where the forecasts on many of these sites are from. The models are global in extent because it only takes a few days the weather in one region to influence the weather in another region (the butterly flapping its wings story, although it was a seagul in the original paper by Ed Lorenz).

In the home region of the institution, a limited area model covering the nearby region will also be run at much finer space and time scales. For example, the Norwegians will run a regional or limited area model over NW Europe. But the forecasts for the Berg from Norway will be from their coarse resolution model (i.e. big grid boxes with poorly resolved topography).

The modelling groups are basically in competition with each other to produce the best forecasts. This is one reason they make their forecasts available.

What I don't know is how well these foreign models do in comparison with the locally produced SAWS forecasts. Local should be better because they can tune their regional/limited area model to the region and also run their own models at a resolution that resolves the topography - especially important for the Berg. But I don't know if this is the case. I do know that SAWS and other met services in Africa make heavy use of the foreign numerical model forecasts.
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05 Oct 2010 23:54 #1874 by Serious tribe
Thanx for the heads up on how this operates.

Weather is major factor in my work (architectural and landscape photographer) and having the right information helps in making decisions as to whether i shoot or not. Being in a coastal area though, the weather is often uncertain, especially in summer, makes my life hell!

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12 Oct 2010 07:05 #1910 by intrepid
@mnt_tiska: this confirms my suspicions that predictions specifically for Giants Castle and RNNP - where there are active weather stations - are probably the most accurate. This covers the Northern and Central Berg nicely. Pity there is no weather station in the Southern Berg. Not even in Underberg it seems. The closest one seems to be in Cedara?

I have a few more links to add to this thread a little later, and then I'll be wrapping things up and adding all links mentioned here to the link collection (see menu item at the footer) under a special Berg Weather Links category. So if anyone knows of any more links, let us know.

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23 Aug 2012 12:37 #55033 by brio
Replied by brio on topic Re: Drakensberg weather sites
I see www.mountain-forecast.com have added more peaks to their list.

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20 Sep 2012 07:39 #55281 by ghaznavid
It seems that my photo of Popple Peak has managed to find its way onto Mountain Forecast - no credit given or anything :angry:

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20 Sep 2012 12:17 #55287 by intrepid
Have a careful look at usage license under which you published the image...

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20 Sep 2012 13:59 #55291 by ghaznavid
They got it off the wiki article I wrote some time back, I did read the licensing agreement at the time and it does provide for the photo to be shared, but it requires that credit is given to the photographer when it is shared. My objection isn't to them using my photo, just the fact that there is no acknowledgement of who took it...

Any way, joys of the computerised world we live in...

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21 Sep 2012 06:27 #55292 by Smurfatefrog
A warning posted this morning by Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife:


For those planning to visit the Drakensberg this weekend, please be advised of WeatherSA's warning of severe thunderstorms forecast for Friday and Saturday. At this stage it is not clear when these storms are forecast to hit the Berg, but preliminary forecasts suggest in excess of 4mm of rain on Friday night and a much larger storm on Saturday, with forecasts of a 60% chance of at least 14mm of rain. Those planning on hiking should ensure their route has refugia in which hikers can sit out severe thunder storms, as well as ensuring to stay out of river beds as overnighting spots, given the propensity of Berg rivers to flashflood and hikers being trapped under a field of boulders washed down from the higher lying areas.

We trust that those taking to the hiking trails this weekend will take every necessary precaution, and not underestimate rapid weather changes in the Berg. We trust that those staying in our resorts will have a comfortable weekend too, without planning day trips which will catch them out in the open at risk of lightning.

Remember to fill out the mountain register for any trips into the mountains, for your own safety!

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21 Sep 2012 06:34 - 21 Sep 2012 06:34 #55293 by ghaznavid
Thanks for passing the warning on :thumbsup:

Its odd - SAWS has heavy rain and thunderstorms, yr.no has almost perfect weather.

Based on past experience SAWS is usually wrong though, so lets hope for good weather...
Last edit: 21 Sep 2012 06:34 by ghaznavid.

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