Injisuthi

13 Sep 2011 13:30 #3996 by diverian
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13 Sep 2011 13:39 - 13 Sep 2011 13:41 #3998 by diverian
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And how about all three versions ?






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13 Sep 2011 13:46 #3999 by intrepid
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:laugh:

then there are the variations where the i is replaced by an e, or dropped altogether: eNjesuthi, Njesuthi...!

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.

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13 Sep 2011 14:02 - 13 Sep 2011 14:41 #4000 by tiska
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the eN versions are the locative - i.e. the 'place of' rather than the thing. So the Injisuthi Valley is not actually a well fed dog. Instead it is a place in the Berg. Hence the locative rather than the nominative.
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13 Sep 2011 14:35 - 13 Sep 2011 14:38 #4003 by tiska
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Injisuthi is the correct spelling I believe.

In isiZulu adjectives combine with nouns to make a new single word. In this case (inja=dog) + (suthile=well fed or replete). But the last letter of the noun becomes modified and changes from 'a' to 'i' in the combination. So Injasuthi (which is how it is spelt in many books) is defintely wrong.

Mlambonja is the hungry dog (lambile=hungry and inja is again dog). In this case the 'i' in inja is modified to an 'o' when the combination happens. When the adjective precedes the noun, the adjective gains special emphasis. So those dogs roaming round Twins Cave must have been really lean.....
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14 Sep 2011 13:13 #4015 by DubbelBuys
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Nice axplanation mnt_tsika.

Gueass you are fluent in Zulu? Read Write etc.

My sister is fluent in Sotho & told me about the "letter changing" etc. I only catch some words here & there-haha. Still want to learn Sotho though as I reside in the Free State.

I always feel like the hungry dog when reaching twins in the afternoon :woohoo:

Want to visit Injisuthi too-decisions, decisions

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14 Sep 2011 18:29 #4024 by kliktrak
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Going up to wonder valley cave this weekend, will be sure to point this out to my fellow hikers ;)

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14 Sep 2011 20:49 - 14 Sep 2011 21:50 #4025 by tiska
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Have to say one of the things I really miss is shooting the breeze with the guys in the Mnweni area, especially on the walk-out which is usually late afternoon when some beer has been flowing in the kraals. But living where I do now (Oxford), the once basic skills in Zulu are waning fast. And Jacques - Sotho has always seemed like a complete mystery to me tho I suppose it can't be too different in structure.


Kliktrak - ask the ladies who run the camp at Injisuthi where the 'Injesuthi' spelling came from. Injasuthi is just bad grammar but Injesuthi? Might have been an ill-informed attempt to put things straight or is there more to it? And ask then what champagne castle is in zulu too. I reckon they might just settle for the castle over the champagne. Do you reckon they'll think the beer or the sparkling wine is the adjective? And don't forget to feed those dogs....
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15 Sep 2011 09:35 #4029 by kliktrak
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yebo dadewethu. Ngiya zamele xoxa na mathombazane laphe Enjesuthi. Kodwa ngiphuza utshwala kakhulu ngiyadakiwe, amathombazane ayaxosha mina. :whistle:

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15 Sep 2011 09:59 - 15 Sep 2011 10:17 #4030 by tiska
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kliktrak wrote: yebo dadewethu. Ngiya zamele xoxa na mathombazane laphe Enjesuthi. Kodwa ngiphuza utshwala kakhulu ngiyadakiwe, amathombazane ayaxosha mina. :whistle:


good stuff Kilktrak - let us know what they say! Zulus normally only admit to 'ngiphuzile' (I have been drinking) rather than 'ngiyadagiwe' (I am drunk) - at least on farms. All too often an unfortunate distinction.

On the road in there also used to be a Clover sign for 'Injasuthi' primary school which used to make me smile - given the grammer. A bit like 'I couldn't understood what you spoke' being the school moto....
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