Drakensberg Cable Car

19 Jul 2013 10:02 #57761 by intrepid
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Yes I did send it to them. Didn't know they had published it, and found out indirectly. Was wondering where they got that photo from.

Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.

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26 Jul 2013 15:22 #57832 by ghaznavid
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The Cavern is posting photos of slides on their facebook page. Not sure where they are from, but the one was a summary of feasibility. They say that conservatively they expect 300 000 people per year at R228 per adult and R114 per child.

If its not too windy 90 full days and 90 half days, that works out as 44 loads of 50 people per full day. Sani Pass only gets around 50 people on a busy day, really odd...

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28 Jul 2013 20:06 #57835 by intrepid
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I wonder how they come up with figures of 300 000. To me the Berg is one of the best places on this planet, but realistically I have to say that tourism in the Berg isn't that great. I think profitability is a big risk when it comes to commercial ventures in the Berg.

I think the public outrage against the cable car will be fairly high. This will be great in terms of organising petitions and protests. But we have to make educated objections, not just a sentimental resistance.

By the way I've continued circulating our media statement, but no new publications as yet. Its looks like The Mercury will publish it. Did also send it to The Star, Pretoria News, News24, Mail & Gaurdian and one or two others - no response so far. Any help in getting it distributed would be appreciated.

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28 Jul 2013 21:09 #57836 by ghaznavid
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I had a look at EKZN's 2010 financial statements (couldn't find anything more recent), if you take their 2010 revenue from admissions, adjust it up at the rate it increased from 2009 to 2010 to estimate a 2013 figure, you then take 50% to assume that half is from Berg admissions (a very high over the top estimate) and assume that R45 is the average paid per Berg visit each year you come out at 304 000 people per year.

If I was doing the feasibility study I would definitely consider past records of admissions as part of investigating how many people would be reasonably expected to use the cable car each year - although it would have to be adjusted down for not everyone who visits the Berg using the cable car when they visit, weather stopping people from going up, downtime due to servicing, the fact that many people would be double counted etc.

So, in summary, its not impossible that this is how they came to the number (although if this is how they got to the number, its a very flawed calculation).

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30 Jul 2013 07:31 - 30 Jul 2013 13:54 #57846 by domsmooth
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I see Stephen Coan put an article in yesterday's Natal Witness.

It reflects many of the details already posted about above, but I love the closing line:

But Mabuyakhulu asked people to consider the project with open minds and not preconceived opinions.
“The project will be driven by logic,” he said.
“Environmental and social implications will be considered. There is no way a responsible government would ruin our natural capital and natural assets.”


Classic. Logic! hehehe

Lets all help maintain the values for which the Berg was proclaimed a World Heritage Site
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30 Jul 2013 14:36 - 31 Jul 2013 23:17 #57855 by intrepid
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There is no way a responsible government would ruin our natural capital and natural assets.

That remains to be seen.

Muller said it would relieve negative impacts on the environment caused by hikers, such as erosion and litter and the income it generated could be used to fund the environmental management of the area.

Seriously? Hikers are causing such pressure on the Drakensberg that it needs to be relieved?

Muller said the project was financially viable and that a survey had found that the majority of tourists would use or consider using a cableway. “There is strong demand for this tourism product.”

I'd like to see the survey. The public responses that I've seen so far have mostly been outraged. Take a look at the result of our own survey results on Facebook:
www.facebook.com/questions/10150859039659118/

I still question the projected figure of 300 000. In this article it states that the Northern Berg currently only gets 135 000 visitors per year.

R500 million investment and only producing 30 jobs, surely much better use can be made of this money, with a much better return?

Remarks by the KwaZulu-Natal MEC for Economic Development and Tourism, Mr Michael Mabuyakhulu, on the occasion of the presentation of the Cable Car Feasibility Study

www.info.gov.za/speech/DynamicAction?pageid=461&sid=38385&tid=114793

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30 Jul 2013 15:29 #57856 by ghaznavid
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I was thinking roughly the same thing re the "responsible government" point, but didn't want to bring up politics. But thats given me an idea, I'm going to try to raise this as an issue with opposition parties, maybe if they use it for a campaign point ahead of the next elections (especially R500m for 30 jobs) the state will drop this stupidity.

That comment on the litter is a real shocker - I think proper hikers pick up more litter than they leave. Also they are assuming that hikers will use a cable car instead of walking and that the extra people in the area won't litter or walk around. Maybe while they were checking out the spot they bought some "products" from the locals :laugh:

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30 Jul 2013 16:00 #57857 by ghaznavid
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Just sent a message to the DA with a summary of some of the facts, I imagine if a few of us try to push the issue they will probably listen.

Also just had a very brief look at the remarks by the KwaZulu-Natal MEC for Economic Development and Tourism - looks like its no longer a question of whether or not it will go ahead and its just a case of when.

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30 Jul 2013 21:41 - 30 Jul 2013 21:41 #57860 by intrepid
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Yes, it seems that they have their agenda and are set on it. Good to have some of the opposition parties look into it. Lets also wait for the feasibility study to be officially released to the public. After we've had a look at it, we may need to get yet another media response out there. Save the few that did (and thanks to them!), the lack of interest from several papers to publish our statement as an opinion was disappointing. Facebook can dedicated awareness websites can also be used to spread the info.

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31 Jul 2013 05:31 #57862 by Smurfatefrog
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Discussion on ECR now, looking for peoples views, you wants to be the VE voice...

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