Pools along the Mnweni Valley

11 Dec 2014 13:51 - 11 Dec 2014 13:53 #62461 by intrepid
This post aims to draw attention to some lovely sets of pools along the Mnweni Valley, as well as to set the record straight on what they are called. There is some confusion around which the official "Mnweni Pools" are (a confusion I have been a part of).

The official Mnweni Pools are technically in the Chakide (Icidi) River, but right at the junction with the Mnweni. Among the homesteads is a set called the Embezeni Pools. The ones near Mlambu's now disused kraal do not officially have a name, and may be referred to as "Mlambu's Pools" for the time being.



This information comes from a pretty extensive collective knowledge of the area, which includes what the Mnweni mountain guides say.

There are other sets along the valley, but the three indicated above are the ones deemed appropriate for hikers to visit and to swim in. And they are lovely pools indeed!

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11 Dec 2014 15:33 #62464 by tiska
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This photo, from Malcolm Pearse's website, is what I have always thought of as Mnweni Baths - mainly on account of R.O. Pearse and Malcolm Pearse's writing.

Do these map onto Mlambu's Pools?

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11 Dec 2014 16:01 #62465 by ghaznavid
So which one is this? (looks like the same one Tiska posted). I assume you can't swim in that :laugh:


There is also a pool in the opposite direction to what I was facing in this photo - this is Mnweni Pools, right?

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11 Dec 2014 16:35 - 11 Dec 2014 16:37 #62466 by intrepid
@mnt_tiska: those appear to be the Embezeni Pools from what I can recognise. Ghaz's first image are also Embezeni. The Mnweni guides are very clear that the pools by the wooden foot bridge spanning a narrow part, are called Embezeni.

I always thought Mlambu's Pools were the Mnweni Pools since the official ones are technically not in the Mnweni River. But I am going with what some Mnweni sages are saying about this. Even this discussion shows how unclear the matter is, and I hope we have gotten it right this time :cheer: .

Ghaz, your second pic does seem to fit the bill for the Mnweni Pools since the view is straight up to Icidi Pass.

There are three of Sterkhorn's photos of the Mnweni Pools in the gallery, starting from here:
www.vertical-endeavour.com/gallery/drakensberg/310-mnweni-pools.html

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11 Dec 2014 16:38 #62467 by Stijn
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Ghaz, your first photo is of the waterfall below Embezeni Pools - we didn't actually go right up to the pools themselves.

And yes, Mnweni Pools are behind you in the second photo as that's Icidi Pass up ahead.

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11 Dec 2014 16:54 - 11 Dec 2014 16:55 #62468 by tiska
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ghaznavid wrote: So which one is this? (looks like the same one Tiska posted). I assume you can't swim in that :laugh:


We have spent a few nights camping out under that rock overhang on separate trips (3rd night of a 4 day Mnweni circuit). The rock slides in the waterfall just up from the main falls to the left of the person with the red bag, are good fun in summer. You can jump down into the pools right at the point of the photo but I've never been down the big waterfall.
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12 Dec 2014 17:25 - 12 Dec 2014 17:29 #62469 by intrepid
It may also be worthwhile pointing out that there exists in the Mnweni quite a difference between indigenous names used by the locals and names familiar to hikers, and that our need to assign names to everything is not always viewed the same way by them. There is quite a list, some of it surprising (for example Ifidi and Icidi appear not to be indigenous names). Embezeni Pools has always been the established name amongst the locals, and when some of the elders were asked about "The Mnweni Pools" they responded that there were two sets of large pools - the ones at the Icidi junction simply being referred to as "Mnweni" by them. There may even not have even been an official name since the way of referring to "The Mnweni Pools" was apparently not that familiar to them. If I were to speculate, it may well be that amongst themselves they used to refer to "the pools further up the Mnweni".

As to which set of pools was the "official" set among hikers still remains unclear - it appears the confusion has existed for some time.

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12 Dec 2014 18:06 - 12 Dec 2014 18:18 #62470 by tiska
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intrepid wrote: It may also be worthwhile pointing out that there exists in the Mnweni quite a difference between indigenous names used by the locals and names familiar to hikers, and that our need to assign names to everything is not always viewed the same way by them. There is quite a list


Related to the proliferation of names is the multitude of paths across such regions - many of them discontinuous. We discussed this a few months ago in Tony's post:
www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/8-drakensberg-hiking/55588-outer-mnweni-needle-traverse.html

I've noticed the same thing in rainforest mountains in Tanzania and Kenya. Just when you expect there to be one well developed track going up a mountain into dense forest, you instead find many paths with none lasting the course. In these places (e.g. Namanga on the Kenya/Tanz border) place names are surprisingly fluid too.

Perhaps the power and necessity of maps is what leads us to think about landscapes in different ways from those who have no need for them. In the same way that there was no need for a nationally defined clock before the first railways.
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08 Jan 2017 20:04 #70558 by purpletrtl
Hi, I'm planning a trip to the Mnweni in April, taking a day extra to swim in the rock pools so I want to make sure I find them. Does anyone know the co-ordinates for them. Also do we book the caves through the Cultural centre or is there perhaps an online reservations site for that? I wanted to stay in Five-star cave and then ledgers cave. at the top. Still planning the route down, hopefully there's a cave bottom of the rockeries pass

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08 Jan 2017 20:33 #70559 by Smurfatefrog
This thread has all the info you need on the pools www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/drakensberg-trips/55587-mnweni-pools.html

You can't book caves at all in Mnweni, might be safer taking a tent as backup, each area does have more than 1 cave option so you could take the chance

There are 3 caves in the valley below Rockeries Pass
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