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Photography, imagery and representation: Attitudes to the Mountains
@ghaznavid - Thank you for assuming that I made an assumption on an isolated event. The infant example I referred to is only one of a few I have personally encountered. As I mentioned in my post it might be a combination of factors. And the attention seeking idea was self inferred...I would say it is a rather significant assumption to say that they took their infant to the top to get social media attention. Not everyone who posts photos on social media is looking for attention
You don't know why that person was doing that dance move at that spot, maybe it was a careless way of getting attention, or maybe they are serious dancers who do that all the time and miscalculated the risk. Maybe it was something else.
And with regards to the dance move - thank you for shedding some light on something that you did not witness. I in fact was there and together with other objective onlookers all experienced the same thing.
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Re-reading you comment to confirm I am not missing something, I am not sure what you are trying to say if you aren't suggesting that those incidents are seeking attention.@ghaznavid - Thank you for assuming that I made an assumption on an isolated event. The infant example I referred to is only one of a few I have personally encountered. As I mentioned in my post it might be a combination of factors. And the attention seeking idea was self inferred...
I am aware that there are people out there who do things for social media attention. However you are citing specific examples as evidence. I am not sure what information you have on them. I personally have only read the facebook comments on the infant one, which provided a lot of context on the precautions taken and experience of the team, which I don't think was an attempt to get attention at all. I know nothing about the dancing one - but my point is that these are actual people whose motives and intentions may not be known to you. They could be reading this thread - you wouldn't necessarily know unless they were to respond on it, and considering the tone of this thread, a more likely response would be for them to never visit this site again.
Its easy to be critical of others based on your limited knowledge of what they are doing and why they are doing it.
I was once at a tourism meeting where a statement was made that the "old men" of hiking don’t want the new generation to enjoy the Drakensberg.
I get why they would say that - there is definitely an "old men" mentality amongst a number of Drakensberg hikers. I still get "back in my day" lectures from time to time.
I get that mountains can be dangerous, but so is driving and practically everything else we do daily. The trick is to educate people on actual safety - and I don't mean telling people that camp shoes are an essential safety item for some reason; something that I was actually once told by a hike leader for a I hike I joined where my pack weighed half of what everyone else's weighed.
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A long time ago came a man on a track
Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back
And he put down his load
Where he thought it was the best
He made a home in the wilderness
He built a cabin and a winter store
And he plowed up the ground by the cold lake shore
And the other travelers came walking down the track
And they never went further, no
They never went back
Then came the churches, then came the schools
Then came the lawyers, and then came the rules
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
And the dirty old track was the telegraph road
Then came the mines, then came the ore
Then there was the hard times, then there was a war
Telegraph sang a song about the world outside
Telegraph road got so deep and so wide
Like a rolling river
And my radio says tonight it’s gonna freeze
People driving home from the factories
There’s six lanes of traffic
Three lanes moving slow
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It's an interesting topic nonetheless, all ideas. And ideas are either strong and complete or merely opinions, which can be little more than clusters of prejudice.
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(sorry, what I meant by merging was not the whole BT thread but the last group of posts)
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You are welcome to disagree with my view, but whatever you do, enjoy the mountains while you are in them!!!
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There you go, done.Carl wrote: Looks like by now a whole new thread is on the cards. I'd propose a splitting off and merging with new title, not sure how that is done...not the 'new titled thread' but the merging part. Something to the effect of "Photography, imagery and representation: Attitudes to the Mountains". Sounds like something nice and pretentious
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Accidents and security-related incidents, especially the more serious ones,tend to stir up discussion because they are troubling and touch on deeper issues. We've seen it multiple times on this forum over the years. This discussion is generally healthy and needed, and I'm glad this forum can cater for it. Naturally this kind of discussion easily brings up differences in opinion, and we all have thoughts and opinions that we feel strongly about. In all of this, remember that the VE and Berg community is fairly small and the chances of meeting each other out there at some point are fairly good. Make every effort in ensuring that these meetings are positive ones when they do happen, and they aren't overshadowed by any difficult conversations we've had here.
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Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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