Monks Cowl
29 Sep 2010 10:43 #1811
by Frosty Ice
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Anyone got info on when Monks was first climbed? And anyone actually done the climb, Barry's or Standard route?
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29 Sep 2010 11:46 #1812
by intrepid
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1942 by Hans Wongtschowski, Tony Hooper, Jacky Botha and Emil Rhule (note the names from routes opened on Bell), in very icy and cold conditions. The owner of the Champagne Castle hotel apparently sent his nephew up to Champagne Castle Buttress the next day to check the newly built cairn, since he had difficulty believing the peak had been climbed.
Monks is definitely on my to-do list. I was up on the neck between Cowl and Cathkin recently and checked out the start of the standard route. Spoke to 2 climbers the previous day who had just climbed the route. They reckon 3 pitches which could easily be done as 2, but a lot of "unroped E grade scrambling" - I'll be roping up on those too, thank you.
I want to tackle Cathkin South Gully and Monks Standard route in one trip, spending 2 nights or so in Cowl Cave. Am not keen on lugging gear up there more than once if I can help it.
Monks is definitely on my to-do list. I was up on the neck between Cowl and Cathkin recently and checked out the start of the standard route. Spoke to 2 climbers the previous day who had just climbed the route. They reckon 3 pitches which could easily be done as 2, but a lot of "unroped E grade scrambling" - I'll be roping up on those too, thank you.
I want to tackle Cathkin South Gully and Monks Standard route in one trip, spending 2 nights or so in Cowl Cave. Am not keen on lugging gear up there more than once if I can help it.
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29 Sep 2010 12:21 #1813
by tiska
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I've done the standard route three times and Barry's once. Barry's is much more tricky - it has a difficult traverse and if you come off, you end up hanging off the rope, so best to take prusik loops on that route.
the Standard route is effectively 3 pitches. The first off the deck (just across from the Cave) is straightforward. The second pitch is a traverse from right to left (towards the escarpment) on a slab in the shape of a long wave. There are placements at the top, but you rely on friction for feet. All three times I climbed it there was a wire permanently stuck in the top about 1/3 of the way along that we clipped. The third pitch is short and straight up from the end of the traverse. From there you weave through the rock bands to the top with short, easy scrambles and no exposure through the rock bands. We never roped up for this as the gradient isn't very steep. I think the standard route is graded F1 or F2 but I've climbed much harder F1s before.
The last of the 3 times we climbed, we took a group of 9 people, 6 of whom had never climbed before, ever! I'm still not sure why we decided to do this. Anyway, I put up some fixed rope across the traverse and each novice climber had two slings to clip into the fixed rope as well as a belay rope held at both ends that we could pull through to clip the next climber on. It took most of the day to get everyone up and down, back to the cave. At the end of that trip 7 of us, including backpacks, went back to Escourt in my 1100 golf. Fun days those.
Final thought, avoid these routes when the rock is wet. Even the standard route would be hard then.
the Standard route is effectively 3 pitches. The first off the deck (just across from the Cave) is straightforward. The second pitch is a traverse from right to left (towards the escarpment) on a slab in the shape of a long wave. There are placements at the top, but you rely on friction for feet. All three times I climbed it there was a wire permanently stuck in the top about 1/3 of the way along that we clipped. The third pitch is short and straight up from the end of the traverse. From there you weave through the rock bands to the top with short, easy scrambles and no exposure through the rock bands. We never roped up for this as the gradient isn't very steep. I think the standard route is graded F1 or F2 but I've climbed much harder F1s before.
The last of the 3 times we climbed, we took a group of 9 people, 6 of whom had never climbed before, ever! I'm still not sure why we decided to do this. Anyway, I put up some fixed rope across the traverse and each novice climber had two slings to clip into the fixed rope as well as a belay rope held at both ends that we could pull through to clip the next climber on. It took most of the day to get everyone up and down, back to the cave. At the end of that trip 7 of us, including backpacks, went back to Escourt in my 1100 golf. Fun days those.
Final thought, avoid these routes when the rock is wet. Even the standard route would be hard then.
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30 Sep 2010 16:40 #1830
by Frosty Ice
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Thanks guys good info. Intrepid, next winter we need to do the lot, maybe even find some ice climbing there. Long weekend maybe?
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01 Oct 2010 15:58 #1843
by intrepid
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Ja lets keep it in mind. Only thing is Cathkin South Gully can get iced up in the winter and a bit sketchy. There is the variation that Mervyn Gans opened up to bypass wet/icy sections, but I'm not sure winter is the best time for the gully. What do you think mnt_tiska?
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01 Oct 2010 16:48 #1844
by tiska
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Hi Guys,
I've not been up the icy gullies in winter in this area (just the usual way up to Cowl Cave from Keith Bush and also down the otherside towatds Injasuthi). Actually I've not done any specific ice climbing in the Berg at all. Was focussed more on the rock climbing and took the snowy events as permission to play.
I've not been up the icy gullies in winter in this area (just the usual way up to Cowl Cave from Keith Bush and also down the otherside towatds Injasuthi). Actually I've not done any specific ice climbing in the Berg at all. Was focussed more on the rock climbing and took the snowy events as permission to play.
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01 Oct 2010 17:00 #1845
by intrepid
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But in terms of rock climbing Cathkin South Gully in the winter - best avoided?
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01 Oct 2010 18:02 - 01 Oct 2010 18:02 #1847
by tiska
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intrepid wrote:
Sorry - don't know. Not done that one.
But I will tell a short story about Cathkin while I'm logged on.
I went to a talk by Stephen Venables in Oxford, UK some time ago. Stephen was the first British climber up Everest without oxygen (and by a new route). I sat back at the start of the talk, expecting to see slides of the walk in, base camp, fixed ropes and so on. No more than ten slides in I couldn't believe it when very familiar images of the Berg filled the enormous screen and Stephen was giving chapter and verse about this pretty serious route he'd done on Cathkin. The SE ridge I think. Turns out he'd been a guest in SA a couple of months prior to the talk.
But in terms of rock climbing Cathkin South Gully in the winter - best avoided?
Sorry - don't know. Not done that one.
But I will tell a short story about Cathkin while I'm logged on.
I went to a talk by Stephen Venables in Oxford, UK some time ago. Stephen was the first British climber up Everest without oxygen (and by a new route). I sat back at the start of the talk, expecting to see slides of the walk in, base camp, fixed ropes and so on. No more than ten slides in I couldn't believe it when very familiar images of the Berg filled the enormous screen and Stephen was giving chapter and verse about this pretty serious route he'd done on Cathkin. The SE ridge I think. Turns out he'd been a guest in SA a couple of months prior to the talk.
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03 Oct 2010 12:10 #1850
by mykitchin
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Hi Intrepid, you mentioned meeting two climbers when you last went and checked out the route. Was one of them Alan Grant?
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04 Oct 2010 08:13 #1851
by intrepid
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Hi mykitchin and welcome to this forum. We chatted for a while but didn't exchange names. It was a guy and girl on August 8. We met them half-way up between Keith Bush and the neck, they were coming down.
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