Thumb Peak and Langies Ridge

17 May 2013 19:07 #56960 by ghaznavid
I have been looking for route listings on the Thumb. From the north side it looks like you can access the top with only about 5m of properly climbing, although it is very exposed - with at least a 200m drop if you fall - and looks difficult and badly protected. MCSA doesn't have a RD for any route on the Thumb - anyone out there done it? There is no way that such a prominent peak has not been climbed yet (@Intrepid: I know you took a shot at it a few years back, did you get up?)

I'm also interested in Langalibalele's Arete (name given by me) - the route being the ridge just north of Langalibalele Pass. By sight it looks like 3 pitches (1 massive 1, maybe needing a stance in the middle, and 2 average length ones), looks well protected and relatively easy. Anyone know if this arete has ever been climbed?

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20 May 2013 13:50 #56970 by intrepid
I did have a go at the Thumb many moons ago but didn't get up. It was not a very determined attempt and we gave up not because it looked that bad, we were just doubtful about getting down safely at the time. Didn't have gear along and it was in the day when we thought Trailblazer boots with car-tyre soles were the ultimate. We first tried to get at it by down-climbing into the neck between the peak and the ridge leading to it. We couldn't abseil and gave up. We then worked our way down along the base of the ridge on the Northern side and got to the base a chimney of sorts (if I remember correctly) which was the separation between the Thumb and the ridge. Looked totally do-able and from them I'm sure it wouldn't have been too bad climbing the rest to the summit. We did climb the two little peak-lets below the thumb which were an easy scramble. From there we just worked our way down the ridge which was the making of "Thumb Pass". We never did get around to trying again and then basically forgot about it until you started asking about Thumb Pass. I'm fairly sure it wouldn't be that difficult to get up if I were to try again now. The down-climbing might not even be that bad, but I'd take some rope with for abseiling in case.

As for the Langi Arete, difficult to know if its been climbed...and the few that might know are not forum-ites. The best way is to get the word out there, ask around, and eventually someone might own up to it if its been done.

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20 May 2013 14:33 - 20 May 2013 14:34 #56972 by ghaznavid
Thanks Intrepid :thumbsup:

I posted the same question on ClimbZA and haven't heard back. But I rarely get replies about the Berg on that site.

The route I am referring to is that narrow bit where the grassy ledge and the approach traverse is narrowest. Doesn't look easy to climb to me! (I would post a pic with the bit circled, but Firefox won't let me upload photos)


I would traverse along the grass and head up just before it becomes an overhang.
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20 May 2013 16:29 - 20 May 2013 16:36 #56973 by intrepid
That pic makes the Thumb look pretty dramatic! The rocky summit on the right of the pic is the ridge I was referring to...I've stood there and looked across at the Thumb...looks do-able from there - if you can get across. There is a major gap there that is not apparent in your photo. The pic below is linked from the Thumb Pass thread. The second photo shows this gap from a different angle, the koppie being the ridge on the right of your photo.


You will notice a subtle break in the cliffs below the neck on the ridge line in your photo. It isn't visible from this angle, but that’s where the chimney is that I was talking about. You can walk along the base of the cliffs to it from the right. Once up the chimney you would gain the grassy ledge you refer to. I know about that weakness to the left, though I have a sneaky suspicion that it might not be that straight-forward. The blocky arete overlooking the neck didn't look too bad from what I remember. All of this is a long time ago so these comments are not based on a very clear memory. Climbs are usually harder than what they look. The top part might be a D, whereas the chimney could easily be an E. Short pitches though.

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20 May 2013 16:56 #56974 by ghaznavid
Ok - that gap is now apparent to me in my photo.

Sounds like a fun route. So you would need 2 days for the route, maybe overnighting on the escarpment near Thumb Spur Peak?

I'm still hoping to get Thumb Pass in this winter, so hopefully I can go and check this out then.

Looking at my photos from Thumb Spur I don't see any clear cairn on the summit. But I can't see how such a prominent peak could be short a first ascent.

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25 Jun 2017 18:20 #71780 by ghaznavid
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So yesterday Hobbit and I had a go at Thumb. With no topo or details of any ascents, we figured it could be a first ascent. Long-story-short, it wasn't - but with no tat or other signs of prior ascents, we rate the ascent must have been a few decades ago. Nonetheless, doing a peak with no topo and a FA don't fundamentally differ.

I don't have sufficient experience to grade the route, I rate the crux as F1, but if you exclude the bottom 4m on the lower pitch, and the bottom 4m on the upper pitch, it would go at B/C. It is almost entirely slab climbing, rock was incredibly solid and gear was adequate. Mostly cams, with 2 nuts.

RD:
Use Thumb Pass summit gully to drop down to a grass ledge. Traverse to the gully up to the nek between Thumb and the unnamed peak attached to the escarpment.

First pitch. Take the obvious line up from the saddle. 15m, crux sequence is F1, rest is B/C. A few good cams and one medium nut.

From the top of the first pitch, walk left around the top cliff. 5m before the ledge comes to an end, there is a line of weakness (protected by only 1 nut) which goes up 5m before it hits an easy ledge. On the ledge, walk left till you hit the grassy gully. Walk to summit from here. A few cams will go in on the traverse. Crux is F1, traverse is B/C.

Descent: walk back along the ledge used to access the summit and abseil back down the crux via a large block. Ab the lower pitch off one of the large boulders above the first pitch. Check that the boulders are stable as most aren't - and try to avoid abseiling over the massive drop just north of the nek (a 50m rope will only just reach the nek when doubled if you extend the ab point on top to ensure the rope is retrievable - our rope only just reached the nek, consider taking 2 ropes).


Yellow - our planned line, white - the line tried to climb, but it died before the top, red - actual line used.


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25 Jun 2017 18:31 #71781 by ghaznavid
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15 Sep 2017 07:03 #72137 by AndrewP
In July, and thus shortly after Ghaz's trip, I climbed The Thumb.

Undisclosed in his writeup but known to me is that a 50m rope was craftly stashed in the hills. This meant I did not need to carry a rope up, but would awkwardly carry a heavier load down than up.

Approach by descending off the escarpment via a gully a little south of The Thumb itself. This is the top of Thumb Pass. You have to drop further down off the escarpment than you would like, probably dropping about 70m vertical before being able to walk across along grass slopes. And then grind your way back up to the saddle between Thumb and the escarpment.

I used the magic purple rope for a top rope belay via a complicated self belay mechanism using a munter hitch and a sling for a harness. The amount of slack at anytime did not bother me much as the amount of rope stretch would have seen a ground fall anyway. The first pitch goes at about grade C/D with no gear to speak of for the hard moves. This is not as bad as it sounds as you are still close to the ground here. I know I took the same line as Hobbit because I saw a cleared out crack on route.

I may or may not have used the same route for pitch 2. Regardless, I will not fall off a grade 13 stemming sequence up a corner on perfect rock. The number of knots I saw tied into the blue tat above suggests a different story for Ghaz.

I climbed up about 5m then traversed left 5m and ran up the final few meters to the summit. And then across the ridge to another cairn to make sure. And promptly missed the sweets in the summit books box. Hint, go get them

I down climbed the top pitch easily and recovered the blue tat. And then at the point the abseil for pitch one should be set from, found some old tat. Probably 5-10 years old. I took the old tat, moved the fresh yellow cord and then down climbed with rope backup to the neck. I now had plently of rope to spare and could walk back to give an easy tug to recover 3kg of deadweight to carry down.

My GPS records the summit at 3043m with a prominemce of 40m.
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15 Sep 2017 07:59 - 15 Sep 2017 08:01 #72138 by tonymarshall
Oh, so another possible khulu at Giant's Castle area, and another inaccurate height on the maps.

Just when I thought I had done all the Giant's Castle khulus.......
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15 Sep 2017 08:11 #72140 by ghaznavid
If anyone follows Hobbit on Instagram, he posted a video at the Nek of us discussing the rope that was left behind. Thanks @Andrew for retrieving it for us!

@Tony: it only has about 45m prominence, so it probably won't make the cut. That being said, I didn't bag the top pitch, so I'll let you know when we go back.
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