Lesotho border patrol

08 Aug 2009 15:08 #553 by domsmooth
This thread discusses the Content article: DA voices Concern over Lesotho Border Security

I think most hikers would agree that the situation is not acceptable. However, the question remains. Would a larger police force on the border reduce the amount of smuggling, while at the same time decimating the beautiful environment that it is (most people would have seen the decimation around caves occupied by the SANDF and their border camps :ohmy: ). More can be done, by all means. I think a register alongside the mountain register for raising concerns (cave degradation, path clarity, smuggling activity etc) would be a really helpful alternative, whereby it is almost as though it is like a community watch, and can pinpoint areas for increased policing efforts.

Any other thoughts?

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09 Aug 2009 20:57 - 09 Aug 2009 20:58 #554 by intrepid
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What I would like to see is more of an acknowledgement from government/authorities about the issue. A silence and apathy never goes down well with the people that are seeing the severity of the problem with their own eyes.

Have to agree that having more SANDF patrols and camps in the Berg is not necessarily any better. They did slow down the cattle rustling and apprehended some smugglers, though it seems the smugglers largely ran circles around them. A difficult task in the best of circumstances. But I do think it's better to apprehend smugglers at the bottom of the valleys and foothills where the smuggling trails converge, rather than trying to chase in them in mountainous terrain.

The SANDF did make an unfortunate negative environmental impact (and never mind the fact that domsmooth and myself were refused entry to one of their caves once during a massive thunderstorm!), but at least they were out there - which is more than can be said about the local police, who seem largely apathetic or even involved themselves. My understanding is that the special border unit is more serious and motivated about the problem. Still, I have yet to encounter them or the Lesotho mounted police on the escarpment.

Not sure if KZN Wildlife want such a register or not, but any irregularities and issues should definitely be reported to them anyway (just ask to speak to the officer at the end of your hike, or phone them afterwards). This forum should also be used to report stuff like that, which serves to collaborate information, and, so that all readers are aware of this, I do at times inform KZN Wildlife about some of the issues that are reported here.

I know that they are undertaking a detailed environmental assessment of caves and trails in some areas, though I'm unsure of the progress.

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12 Aug 2009 10:23 #556 by gollum
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Hehe, wow, it's all going down the drain under this stupid government!

We went climbing in the Injisuthi area this weekend. On Saturday night, while on the contour path between Centenary Hut and Corner pass, we saw a train of lights on the path leading from the hut down to Fergy's Cave. They were regularly spaced, and simply kept coming over the hill. We counted between 15 and 20. The large number, the nature of the lights (orange light and casting no spots), and the sparse formation led us to the conclusion that it had to be a smuggling train.

Then, Monday night while camping in Leslie's pass, we saw a similiar train in the same area. It looked like a busy highway at night!

Would they be active in such a relatively remote and difficult area?

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12 Aug 2009 17:20 #557 by intrepid
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gollum wrote:

Would they be active in such a relatively remote and difficult area?

Yep, you betcha! Judges Pass is popular with them - they have "developed" this pass nicely, it's no longer difficult. From there it seems they walk out near the iNtodolo Flats, stopping to rest in Dinosaur Cave along the way. The remoteness suites them just fine.

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09 Apr 2010 14:23 - 09 Apr 2010 14:24 #1118 by ClimbyKel
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** This thread discusses the content article: A career in Drakensberg dagga smuggling? **

@ Intrepid
Your blog raises 2 off-topic questions with me. Is it considered an "illegal border crossing" to simply hike and cross over between SA and Lesotho? And should one carry a passport when hiking over boarder boundaries (other than for the obvious benefit of having emergency id)? I'm curious if anyone has encountered trouble in doing so?
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12 Apr 2010 17:32 #1133 by intrepid
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Hiking on the escarpment seems to enjoys a long history of acceptance, or at least tolerance, by both countries. The exact border is not marked, and is even disputed. Hikers walking along the border, and smugglers cross right over is a different kettle of fish in my books. Official reccomendation would be to take your passport along if you are on the escarpment, but I rarely do this anymore unless I intend walking further into Lesotho from the edge. Theoretically the Lesotho Mounted Police could theoretically stop and ask you for ID, though I've personally never encountered them.

However, I had a case on a Grand Traverse once where 2 people dropped out at Sani Pass. They had their passports, but since there was no entry stamp into Lesotho in them, the border official was upset, but eventually let them through.

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12 Apr 2010 21:37 #1136 by Stijn
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I've also stopped carrying mine. We have encountered the mounted police near the top of Pins Pass on the Mnweni highway path before (Jan 2006). They didn't even mention passports though - just warned us about the Basotho dogs.

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10 Mar 2011 18:14 #53049 by intrepid
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The SANDF is to be re-deployed to the Free State - Lesotho border, replacing the SAPS, and the dilapidated and almost non-existent border fence it to be re-built.

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08 Jun 2011 12:43 #3081 by Scag
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So I have been dwelling on an article I read a while ago about the SANDF buffing up border control in a number of phases, starting with the Zim border in phase one, ending with the Lesotho border in phase three which is planned to be complete in the 2012/2013 financial year.

While this is great with respect to crime, I wonder what it will mean to us, as hikers. At present we can hike up trails which lead into Lesotho without any problem. But will border control put a stop to this?

www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/SANDF-curbed-syndicates-Sisulu-20110407

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09 Jun 2011 07:52 #3094 by tiska
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I get the sense that the KZN-Lesotho border along the Drakensberg escarpment is the lowest priority of all the borders listed. The Lesotho-OFS border will be a concern long before the high Drakensberg border because of the degree of cross-border theft in that region and the relative ease of military intervention. The Drakensberg will require special training, special equipment and so on. For the most part the SANDF would get themselves into trouble surviving in the Berg nevermind doing anything constructive.

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