Mattresses / sleeping pads

Oh, ok.
What did the one you looked at look like?

The one you shared was the one I looked at, but they were out of stock of the one I wanted. I'll post a photo soon - they just phoned me to tell me that they now have it in stock...

Your comment about the skeleton one being easy to break makes sense, apparently its designed to be put inside your sleeping bag. It's a rather odd design, but anyway.

I've had no issues with mine, its pretty durable (but it is the mil-spec version).
there are varying opinions as to whether it should be used inside or outside the sleeping bag.

The combination of the Klymit and the ThermaRest will still weigh less than a single FA Ultra Lite

Ok, just got it, its a Klymit Static V . My old one was a Thermal Comfort Standard Mat .

So the weights are 514g vs 680g, so I am down 166g. But more significantly, when it comes to space in my pack its about 10 litres vs 2 litres. I see the R Value of the new one is only 1.3 - so maybe more of a summer mat than a winter one...

I'm quite impressed with the Klymit stuff I've seen.

If I only had the money, I'd look at this too: Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite
It has a similar weight (230g for the small) to the Klymit Inertia X-Frame and might be more comfortable.

joshilewis wrote: If I only had the money

I think we all have that view. With about R20k of "spare cash" I could get all the rock climbing gear I need, a light weight summer, 3 season and winter down sleeping bag etc. Now where is that money tree I planted a few years back

I saw a clever quote on a rock climbing forum: "money doesn't buy you happiness, but it will buy you a lot of climbing gear and that's darn close".

The neo-air is excellent if you're hiking in summer conditions. Its R-value is about 1. If you plan to hike in the berg you need a gapper mat as well to keep out the cold. In fact, I had to put the gapper mat on top of the neo-air because of the cold air in the mattress.

What I have now is the exped down mat UL7 with an R-value of 5.9! Its the best!

www.exped.com/exped/web/exped_homepage_na.nsf/0/2a9e7d03be26a60dc125767e00705eae?opendocument

I was looking at winter down mats, I see one has a R-value of 8! The Exped Downmat 9. There is quite a good comparison chart I found.

@sabine, after I posted I found another Therm-a-rest, the NeoAir XTherm which has R-value of 5.7, and the small weighs 310g. Its pretty pricey though.

didn't realise there is now a neo-air Xtherm. Its not a down mat, says it has reflective material to retain body heat, so not too sure how good it is for winter conditions, although it says it has an R value of 5,7