Mafadi loop - Corner Pass NHA and Leslies Pass

11 Jan 2015 10:12 - 11 Jan 2015 10:13 #62570 by tiska
Regarding the path between Marble Baths and the bottom of Leslie's Pass, I think the path is a lot easier to follow going upstream from Marble Baths than going downstream from Leslie's. This is because the least obvious route that the path takes is immediately below the bottom of Leslie's Pass. So if you start trying to find the path here, it is much more difficult than when coming upstream from Marble Baths where the path is reasonably obvious for a few km and follows a sensible line on the true LHS terrace.
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11 Jan 2015 23:04 #62572 by Drakensbergie
Thanks for the report, I was thinking of taking a first timer friend on that exact loop. But I think I'll try this one later. :thumbsup:

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11 Jan 2015 23:27 #62573 by Sterkhorn
OK Highlands Fanatic, I will give it a go.
Below are links to 3 previous threads which dealt with the topic:
Re: Mafadi
Re: Summer overnighting advice: Injasuti
Leslie’s Pass

In 1996 when I first did Leslies Pass, I remember following a terrace route which made the trip from Marble Baths fairly easy. In 2011 when I did the trip again, I went armed with some information from Stijn from this site, determined to follow the terrace route if at all possible. I managed to find the start of the route and successfully followed it till about halfway, where I seemed to end up in the river bed and ended up boulder-hopping the rest of the way. As the next day was a chill day for me, I used the time to scout the terrace route. I was fairly successful, and 2 days later on my return home, I followed the route, taking photos of landmarks and troublesome spots in order to compile a description for myself.
On 2 occasions since, I managed to follow the route both ways (with slight deviations where the path becomes vague or overgrown), and will definitely not follow the river route again.
The terrace route never once follows in or crosses the main river. It sticks to below the ridge on the escarpment side of the river. The trick when one loses the path, is to revert to as close as possible to that ridge to pick up the path again. At times the route has its own set of cairns to follow (in side streams) and at other times it is a fairly well-defined path.
I have attached a document in the downloads section, which has been compiled from my personal notes. It was useful to me in rediscovering the route on my next visit, but may not prove as useful to others, as I knew what I was expecting. I trust that it will prove useful to others too, as it is definitely a worthy alternative to the river route.
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12 Jan 2015 06:41 #62574 by HFc
Great info, thanks Sterkhorn!!

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06 Apr 2015 20:26 #63308 by Dillon
I was just having another read through this report for a bit of research on the Northern High Approach for Corner Pass. Planning on giving it a go in a couple weeks time.
I couldn't help but notice the distances quoted for each day. The last time I did this was years before I owned a GPS, but I seem to remember the distances being not quite as long. Did you guys track each day with a GPS? Day 3 especially seems a bit excessive?
I seem to remember the entire loop being around the 45km mark.
Just curious, I don't want to head back out there again to find it's way longer than I remember! :unsure: :ohmy:

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06 Apr 2015 20:48 #63309 by Smurfatefrog

Dillon wrote: I was just having another read through this report for a bit of research on the Northern High Approach for Corner Pass. Planning on giving it a go in a couple weeks time.
I couldn't help but notice the distances quoted for each day. The last time I did this was years before I owned a GPS, but I seem to remember the distances being not quite as long. Did you guys track each day with a GPS? Day 3 especially seems a bit excessive?
I seem to remember the entire loop being around the 45km mark.
Just curious, I don't want to head back out there again to find it's way longer than I remember! :unsure: :ohmy:

Yup, my GPS was running the entire hike.
After accounting for some bounced signals in Corner pass the detailed distances are below.
Day 3 also included my strolling around the escarpment, only 1.5km though

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07 Apr 2015 07:54 #63310 by Dillon
Cool, thanks.
There are a couple of numbers there that don't quite line up with what I remember, for the sake of my legs I hope your GPS was over-reading :laugh:

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07 Apr 2015 11:11 #63314 by HFc
My recollections of this correlates with Merv's GPS readings, if you do Leslies - Mafadi - Corner NHA, you are looking at close to 49km, if you do this using Corner pass conventional route about 53km, if using Judge's pass around 58km. Yes, this also includes some alternative routing, i.e. visiting a couple of points of interest along the way, such as Lithabolong peak (almost on route anyway), Injasuthi dome (bit of a slog but hey, it is the 2nd highest RSA peak, gotta bag it), Injasuthi Upper Cave vs smugglers highway also differ a bit in distance etc etc. If you stay over at Upper Cave, you have to walk down to the cliffs behind the triplets, one of the most awe inspiring views in the Berg. Another stop worth doing is to the Injasithu Buttress's, and the hanging valley between them and Leslies (I think you know this well, I recall you doing Injasuthi pass?). Not to be messed with, it adds some up and down on the route.

So there will be variations between routes and detours taken by different parties, that's a certainty, I am perhaps stating the obvious and not answering your question. lol.

Best prepared for 55km total trip distance.
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07 Apr 2015 11:26 #63315 by Riaang
Hi Dillon,

Generally speaking the GPS distances are correct. I've been testing my Fenix 2 along with my Montana to check distances against those shown on the maps, and on my last two hikes bothe GPS's showed higher numbers than those on the maps. Also, the Fenix 2 has a 3D track function (not sure about the exact terminology used thought) that literraly tracks the distance your feet moves. By example, if you move 1m forward but have to climb up 2m to get over a rock the map will show you a 1m distance, but due to the terrain you actually covered 3m (1m forward and 2m upward). Also, if you zig-zag up a pass the distance will be longer than if a straight line was taken.

To give you another example of my last hike (this past weekend at Champaign Castle), the map states the distance from the campsite to Blind Man's corner as 5,5km (If I remember correctly), both my GPS's gave the distance at around 6,67km's.

I don't believe the distances on the maps anymore, I use it sort of more as an indication of distance rather than the actual distance to be travelled. Not too much of an issue for me (although being statistically minded the incorrect data is a bit of an irritation), but when taking unfit people along on a hike (not a great idea to start with, I know) or like I did last weekend when I took my kids along the additional distance not budgeted for could prove to be problematic.
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07 Apr 2015 11:49 #63316 by Smurfatefrog

Riaang wrote: To give you another example of my last hike (this past weekend at Champaign Castle), the map states the distance from the campsite to Blind Man's corner as 5,5km (If I remember correctly), both my GPS's gave the distance at around 6,67km's.

Were you in one of the groups we saw on Sunday? Two of us heading from carpark up Gray's on Sunday

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