Drakensberg Cable Car
Its not always a question of what you have to offer, but rather how you market it.
Personally I have never been to St Lucia or Kruger (shockingly) - but my brother has been to both and from how he talks it seems that St Lucia is more impressive. Personally I rate Oribi Gorge and Lake Eland Nature Reserve as awesome spots - and my interest in these long predates my interest in the Berg. I only discovered about the existence of Kloof Gorge last year and I have family that lives close to there.
KZN has attractions that can stand up to, and beat, the other provinces of KZN. But poor marketing and perceptions regarding crime etc are the reason that KZN isn't what it could be. As far as I know, Durban gets more domestic leisure visitors each year than Cape Town does.
The state of KZN roads isn't helping - although the N3 is still mostly in great condition.
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Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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I think this is another case of classic mis-information. They are even confused about where the real Mount Amery is. Scary isn't it.ghaznavid wrote: Just looking over some old articles. Is it just me or does this "3300m top" really bug everyone? The proposed top is 3143m, assuming it tops out on the khulu itself.
Perhaps when they say 3300m, they are talking about the proposed extension to Mont-Aux-Sources (3282m). Surely the extension will never happen, but is it possible that they will actually build the entire thing at the same time?
On the Facebook poll only about 6% of the voters are currently in favour, with a larger number of voters. That more people are in favour on the tourism site vote could be understood in terms of people in the tourism sector thinking its a good idea for the potential tourism boost. Still, even with 1 in 3 being in favour, it shows that the proposal runs a very high risk of failure due to lack of public support. The cableway can only work with a big positive buy in from the locals and the public at large. Currently this seems to be severely lacking.no4stopper wrote:
From Tourismupdate.co.za
Last week’s poll: Is the Drakensberg cableway a good idea?
Last week, we asked readers what they thought about KZN’s plans to build a cableway in the Drakensberg. The majority of the respondents, or 66%, did not support the plans, while 34% supported the plans.
So two out of three people involved in tourism think it is a bad idea.
It would be great if more people treasured the Berg like we did on this forum, isn't it? The fact is, interest in the Berg is severely limited. It just isn't something that large numbers of local and foreign tourists are interested in. I've been running this site for 7 years - you kinda get a feel for how much interest there is in the Berg. I wish it was more.Guardian wrote:
That is exactly the reason why they are trying to raise the profile for the berg with this cablecar is it not? If the cablecar can get the berg on the international tourist map along with kruger and Table mountain, then surely it is a good thing?Lists of what to do in KZN do list the Drakensberg, but its always right at the bottom of the list.
If the Berg is not drawing the numbers already, will the building of a cable car change that significantly? The attraction itself (the Berg) is not significant enough evidently, and the cableway in and of itself is not the attraction either.
And why the single option of a cableway? Why is this the one and only solution? Many other things could be done at a fraction of the cost.
The cableway is part of the 20 year master tourism plan for KZN. The plan is aimed at boosting the declining tourism stats in the province. Question is, why has tourism declined? And will building new toys change that trend (like cablways and statues of King Shaka)? What are the real reasons for the decline of tourism in KZN and why not rather address what has chased people away.
In another article those opposing the cableway were referred to as having "sectarian interests". Why does the DEDT welcome public participation but doesn't actually want to hear any objection or negative comments? It is easy to label us as being environmental extremists to discredit us. As you have correctly pointed out, the prime objections right now are the financial infeasibility and the fact that many AmaZizi don't want it. We haven't even been driving the environmental points that much. According to the Precationary Principle, it is up to the DEDT to prove that the cableway will NOT impact the environment in the EIA. The onus is not on us to prove that it will.Guardian wrote: *I do not like how being labeled an environmental group is a way to discredit an organisation these days. I think it stems from fundamentalism that is often necessarily present in environmental arguments. Any group that rises fundamental flaws should be taken seriously. And the concerns raised about this project should not be grouped under "The environmental groups" as in the article. Since concerns have actually not been focussed on the environmental aspect, if it were VE, WAG etc will have been moaning about the (real) danger for the vultures not the financial and social aspects.
I find it very concerning that no response is evident from the DEDT about the fact that the AmaZizi leadership have indicated that they do not support the cableway. As it stands, they cannot secure the lease of the land this way. So why should the current proposal even continue?
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And why the single option of a cableway? Why is this the one and only solution? Many other things could be done at a fraction of the cost.
Agreed, fixing the R74 from Harrismith would probably have a bigger impact on tourism in the area (quite a few establishments in northern 'berg have already closed or are teetering due to the condition of this road).
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The link is www.surveymonkey.com/s/S3WJ96P
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Guardian wrote: *I do not like how being labeled an environmental group is a way to discredit an organisation these days. I think it stems from fundamentalism that is often necessarily present in environmental arguments. Any group that rises fundamental flaws should be taken seriously. And the concerns raised about this project should not be grouped under "The environmental groups" as in the article. Since concerns have actually not been focussed on the environmental aspect, if it were VE, WAG etc will have been moaning about the (real) danger for the vultures not the financial and social aspects.
I believe the term is "Ad Hominem" - Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason (an online dictionary). Put differently - it is discrediting the person who made the statement rather than replying to what they have said.
Its a technique that has been used in propaganda campaigns and politics for years.
We have questioned the 2 most important aspects of the business plan and they are yet to give a proper reply on either of them, but have given a partial reply on 1 (ticket price) - so that's a start...
- Ticket price
- 300 000 visitors at 8.2% growth p.a.
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While it seems that a fair proportion of the VE community object to the Cableway primarily on environmental grounds, a failed financial model worsens the environmental impact should the project go ahead. This is because a) the management company would most likely not be able to service its environmental obligations if it were in financial trouble and b) if the Cableway were to fall into a state of disuse, it would be a considerable eye-sore and one for which there would be no recourse.
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www.ecr.co.za/post/environmental-assessment-set-for-cable-car-site/
Shouldn’t UNESCO have been informed long ago, along with a definite go ahead from the AmaZizi leadership? Putting the cart before the horse?
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www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2014/01/31/cableway-may-enter-lesotho
KwaZulu-Natal economic development and tourism MEC Michael Mabuyakhulu met tourism officials from Lesotho and the Free State to discuss extending the cableway by 5km into Lesotho.
Mabuyakhulu said market testing is expected to be completed by the end of next month and a project developer will be appointed to help the department find a strategic partner.
He said the department hoped to find an investor by September.
"This process will go simultaneously with the environmental impact assessment," Mabuyakhulu said.
Also revealed in The Witness today:
goo.gl/Z0qW4GTHE public participation process around plans or a cable car up a Drakensberg mountain has been extended to February 14,
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