Who is doing or has done the Grand Traverse
10 Dec 2014 12:13 #62448
by ghaznavid
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2 weeks till I get to start my 2nd GT 
I wonder if I can bag more than 12 khulus this time...
I wonder if I can bag more than 12 khulus this time...
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11 Dec 2014 10:22 #62449
by DavidE373
Fortitudine Vincimus
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Morning all,
Does anyone know what time the gate at Sentinel opens?
I am heading off to Witsies this weekend to scout the first portion of the GT. I want to use as much daylight as possible and would prefer to head out at dawn.
Also, do you think it is possible to get to the Rat Hole Cave area and back to the car park in a day. I intend on running where possible so hope to move at a reasonable pace, 5-7km/hour.
Does anyone know what time the gate at Sentinel opens?
I am heading off to Witsies this weekend to scout the first portion of the GT. I want to use as much daylight as possible and would prefer to head out at dawn.
Also, do you think it is possible to get to the Rat Hole Cave area and back to the car park in a day. I intend on running where possible so hope to move at a reasonable pace, 5-7km/hour.
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11 Dec 2014 10:27 #62450
by ghaznavid
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Rat Hole and back in a day - that is about 50km. Sounds fun
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11 Dec 2014 10:31 #62451
by DavidE373
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That's what I estimated, I'm concerned it's a stretch too far...
I'm reluctant to carry a tent but have also considered sleeping at Rat Hole. Are there any safety/security issues in doing this?
I'm reluctant to carry a tent but have also considered sleeping at Rat Hole. Are there any safety/security issues in doing this?
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11 Dec 2014 10:38 #62452
by ghaznavid
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I am guessing from the fact that you are considering doing this that you are a trail runner? But to evaluate whether or not you can do this - that really depends on you.
Would I be able to do this? Probably not. But I would imagine the likes of Stijn and AndrewP probably could.
Tents reduce your speed and chance of success, but definitely take some form of a bivy along. Rat Hole Cave is more difficult to find than normal caves due to its size (or lack thereof).
I have only been in that escarpment valley once, so I can't really comment on it - but I don't think security is an issue in that valley.
Would I be able to do this? Probably not. But I would imagine the likes of Stijn and AndrewP probably could.
Tents reduce your speed and chance of success, but definitely take some form of a bivy along. Rat Hole Cave is more difficult to find than normal caves due to its size (or lack thereof).
I have only been in that escarpment valley once, so I can't really comment on it - but I don't think security is an issue in that valley.
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11 Dec 2014 10:44 #62453
by DavidE373
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I am a runner, I've done the Mont Aux Sources Challenge 3 times and another event in the Southern Drakensberg twice.
I have Rat Hole pinpointed with a GPS track (not that it means much...) so hopefully finding it won't be an issue.
I have Rat Hole pinpointed with a GPS track (not that it means much...) so hopefully finding it won't be an issue.
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11 Dec 2014 12:09 - 11 Dec 2014 12:09 #62456
by intrepid
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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Yes its possible, and others on this forum could pull it off. And if at first you don't succeed, try and try again! Remember too that there is an inland route which takes you through to that area fairly quickly. I am no trail runner, but do walk from dark to dark sometimes, and this is a route which I could imagine doing in a day (helps if you know what you are getting into though). Assuming you are sleeping at the car park, just arrange with the guards to leave the gate unlocked before they go to bed (sometimes they do anyway).
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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11 Dec 2014 12:33 #62457
by DavidE373
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Thanks, I plan on leaving my car at the car park, staying at Witsieshoek for the weekend.
I have the track Ryno Griesel and Sandes used for their record, should do the trick...
I have the track Ryno Griesel and Sandes used for their record, should do the trick...
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11 Dec 2014 12:44 #62458
by AndrewP
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Hello Barefoot Dave
Way to go!
I have arrived at sentinel car park at all sorts of strange hours and have never found it locked. Out of curtesy, I normally leave a piece of paper under the door with my details so the guys know when you will be back and so on.
The first bit up chain ladder can easily be done in the dark (both ways if needed), so I suggest starting off about 4am to maximise your day.
I suggest ditching sleep gear and going light - go until about midday and then turn around. You will then get back a bit after dark. If you do a long day and od not messa bout too much you should be able to walk the whole way. If you run, see if you can go further
Way to go!
I have arrived at sentinel car park at all sorts of strange hours and have never found it locked. Out of curtesy, I normally leave a piece of paper under the door with my details so the guys know when you will be back and so on.
The first bit up chain ladder can easily be done in the dark (both ways if needed), so I suggest starting off about 4am to maximise your day.
I suggest ditching sleep gear and going light - go until about midday and then turn around. You will then get back a bit after dark. If you do a long day and od not messa bout too much you should be able to walk the whole way. If you run, see if you can go further
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11 Dec 2014 13:02 #62459
by Stijn
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Oh and btw, it's 42km to Rat Hole and back via the inland "record route".
Pack light, keep moving and go for it!
Pack light, keep moving and go for it!
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