Mnweni hikes - 4 days or longer

07 May 2012 06:40 #53757 by plouw
Hi Geordie
Yes, that was my car, but no, it wasnt there when we got back! :dry:
i take my hat off to you guys, we were buggered enough with our 2 passes in 4 days. :laugh:

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08 May 2012 15:56 #53782 by anthony
Hi guys
I am hoping some one could help me with this ridiculous idea i have, and that been, does any one think it is possible to get up Ifidi from the cultural center in a day providing one starts at first light and gets a lift up the road for the first 5km.....?? :woohoo:

The plan is up ifidi on a Saturday then down the chain ladders on Sunday. B)

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08 May 2012 16:28 #53783 by intrepid
If you put your mind to it, yes.

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08 May 2012 18:00 #53784 by tiska
On a nice short trip like that, Ifidi would be possible in a day. I'd go no tent (plan for Ifidi Cave) and a 9-10kg bag.

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10 May 2012 07:35 #53814 by jvheerden1982
Hi anthony! Go for it! just start very early if you are fit i am sure its possible! There is a section at the ifidi where we went on to the right hand slope as the river bed was very dense. That saved us a lot of time. It was an awesome feeling reaching the top and feeling the fresh wind coming down the mountain.
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18 Jul 2012 16:10 #54681 by markj
Hi folks

Myself and a group of friends are heading up to the Berg in two weeks' time for a spot of winter hiking B)

Our plan is to do a 5-day hike, starting and finishing at the Mnweni Cultural Centre:
Day 1 - hike to 5 Star Cave or thereabouts
Day 2 - up Fangs Pass
Days 3+4 - head southeast towards Mponjwane Cave
Day 5 - back down via Rockeries Pass.

Between us we've done a good deal of wilderness trekking, and in some pretty horrendous conditions (Patagonia, Scotland, etc), but none of us have any Berg experience.

I'd like to ask for some advice regarding water - what's the water situation like along this route in the winter? i.e. How far (more or less) up the trail towards Fangs Pass can we expect to find running water, and can we rely on running water being available on the Lesotho side on top of the escarpment?

In the following week we'll be doing a number of day hikes, with possibly an overnight hike thrown into the mix.

Options we're considering for an overnight hike are:
- Bell Traverse, overnighting at Twins Cave, back via Mlambonja
- Giants Castle, overnighting either at the base of Giants Pass or on the Giant massif itself.

Again, I'm wondering what the water availability will be like in these areas. I'm assuming there won't be much on either the Bell Traverse or up on Giants Castle...

Is it generally advisable to carry additional water supplies (with dromedary bags or such) when hiking in the winter in the Berg? Or extra fuel to melt snow/ice?

Another question regarding the Bell Traverse: On the EKZNW map no.2, it is marked as a "dangerous section". What is the reason for this? Is it risky to do it in winter (any icy sections?)

Many thanks for any advice or wisdom that you might share :)

Cheers
Mark

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18 Jul 2012 19:18 - 18 Jul 2012 19:19 #54685 by ghaznavid

markj wrote: Hi folks

Hi Mark :)

markj wrote: I'd like to ask for some advice regarding water - what's the water situation like along this route in the winter? i.e. How far (more or less) up the trail towards Fangs Pass can we expect to find running water, and can we rely on running water being available on the Lesotho side on top of the escarpment?

I haven't done any Mnweni Passes, but I know the Lesotho side from the GT earlier this year. The quality of the water is usually fine, take some water purification pills in case. As for the quantity, in April there was very little water in the rivers, so you may have to take a walk some way into Lesotho or melt some snow/ice...

markj wrote: Again, I'm wondering what the water availability will be like in these areas. I'm assuming there won't be much on either the Bell Traverse or up on Giants Castle...

The Bell Traverse has some trickles of water, but is otherwise basically dry. Giant's Castle area is fairly good for water, but as far as rivers in Lesotho go, you may have to drop over the Long Wall ridge to get to water, alternatively drop into the valley on the South side of the Massif.

I will leave the guys who know these areas better to answer your other questions...
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19 Jul 2012 05:22 - 19 Jul 2012 05:26 #54689 by Serious tribe
As regards water. Generally you can find it in winter in the mweni area both in the valleys and on the top there are some large rivers in the area. I have never used purification tablets and have never had a problem, just don't drink d/s of habitation.

On the traverse we did find a trickle in winter just below the chessman, but closer to the inner horn from which i was able to set up a syphon and fill our bottles. That is about it. This year i am led to believe that it has been drier so likely this won't even be running. As far as safety goes, the section known as buggers gully and the traverse to it can be a bit tricky with snow and ice, and you have to tread carefully.

This trip account will give you all the info you need for the traverse in winter. Images DSCF 3003, 3018 and 3025 are the tricky bits.
www.vertical-endeavour.com/forum/8-drakensberg-hiking/3567-hike-report-bell-traverse-via-cathedral-peak.html#3567
Last edit: 19 Jul 2012 05:26 by Serious tribe.

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19 Jul 2012 06:01 #54690 by Grandeur
In March this year I did a similar route with a couple of mates of mine. 3 days 2 nights. Starting at the Cultural Village, camped near Mnweni / Ifidi river confluence, up Mnweni, overnight in Mponjwane cave, down Rockeries back to Cultural Village. (Aplogies if these names are not 100% correct - I am also fairly new to the Berg)
Plenty of water in the valley. Nothing up Mnweni pass and very little on top. There were stagnant pools about an hours walk (round trip) from the cave but far less than I expected given that it rained both nights we were there. Excellent cave though - we stayed dry all night.

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20 Jul 2012 05:50 #54692 by intrepid
Hi markj,

in winter I always take my drom bag with. Heading towards caves does take some planning in terms of when to fill up on the approach. You either have to know where the last water will be, or make an intuitive guess. Normally water is not an issue to find - you may however have to walk a bit to fill up. If you are camping near Pins Pass on top, this area is notoriously dry. And on the approach to Mponj Cave you should defintely fill up when you hit a good water supply - dont wait till you get to the cave first.

There normally is cow dung lying around everywhere on top. If you get to a stagnant pool where the dung-density is higher, you may want to treat your water, or boil it. I have never gotten sick myself, but some of my buddies have. This is more of an issue on longer hikes such as the Grand Traverse, since, if you are going to get diarrhoea, this can take a while before it sets in.

Melting of ice and snow definitely works. However, you will have to tolerate dust and grassy bits in your water, and it takes large volumes of snow to make up enough water.

As ST mentioned, it is a dry season this year (don't be fooled by the snow). The Bell Traverse will be very dry. Do not expect anything between Bugger Gully and Twins Cave. There will definitely not be any water at Twins Cave either, unless you can melt snow. You may have to fetch water from the Kwakwatsi on top.

The Bell Traverse is not dangerous in my opinion, but it has the potential to freak people out if they cannot tolerate a bit of exposure. The maps have to issue a warning like that to keep the type of people away from there that definitely shouldn't attempt it. There are 4 exposed bits, which are short-lived, the rest is fine. Read through various threads on this forum. If there is ice and snow around, I definitely have heard of people having a challenge on the tricky bits. Can be done though.

Giant's Pass itself will be very dry. You can fill up before and after though (hopefully the stream before you get to the main gully where the pass is will not have dried up this year). On top, if you traverse around to the Lotheni side of the Giant's massif, you will pass by one seepage area, and eventually get to a second where there is a campsite right by the Makhaza Icefall where the ice climbers go. The ice in this area is formed mainly by seepage, so there is always ice and water around. The wind and temperatures around here are typically savage though.

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