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17 Apr 2012 09:37 - 17 Apr 2012 09:46 #53584
by tonymarshall
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Hi plouw,
Pleasure, just hope the cattle and donkeys keep away till then.
Please let us know if it's still clean.
If your friend is prepared for what to expect, and fit enough, it should be ok.
It would also depend largely on your assessment of the novice as an individual, and for him/her it will be a baptism of fire into the 'Berg irrespective, so to be an enjoyable experience hiking fitness is essential. A head for heights and steady nerves will also assist in getting over the wet, steep, slippery and high obstructions near the top of Ifidi Pass, especially if there are only two of you. (except if your friend is an experienced climber.)
I understand your overnight route plan (probably no tents), but don't need to remind you that you have a very easy third day (assuming you find Fangs Cave easily), and a looong fourth day.
Pleasure, just hope the cattle and donkeys keep away till then.
If your friend is prepared for what to expect, and fit enough, it should be ok.
It would also depend largely on your assessment of the novice as an individual, and for him/her it will be a baptism of fire into the 'Berg irrespective, so to be an enjoyable experience hiking fitness is essential. A head for heights and steady nerves will also assist in getting over the wet, steep, slippery and high obstructions near the top of Ifidi Pass, especially if there are only two of you. (except if your friend is an experienced climber.)
I understand your overnight route plan (probably no tents), but don't need to remind you that you have a very easy third day (assuming you find Fangs Cave easily), and a looong fourth day.
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17 Apr 2012 10:11 #53585
by intrepid
Take nothing but litter, leave nothing but a cleaner Drakensberg.
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@tonymarshall and elinda: thanks for the great pics. We've done the exact same clean-up of the cave before so its just a matter of time before it becomes like that again.
@plouw: Tony's comment about your assessment of your team is the key. One of my Berg buddies did Ifidi as his first ever Berg pass and he did it with flying colours. It was a matter of judging if he was the right kind of person or not and assessing his strength and fitness.
By the way I've walked out from Fangs Cave before in a day and then still driven 7 hours back home, so its all doable, albeit long.
@plouw: Tony's comment about your assessment of your team is the key. One of my Berg buddies did Ifidi as his first ever Berg pass and he did it with flying colours. It was a matter of judging if he was the right kind of person or not and assessing his strength and fitness.
By the way I've walked out from Fangs Cave before in a day and then still driven 7 hours back home, so its all doable, albeit long.
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17 Apr 2012 10:49 - 17 Apr 2012 10:52 #53586
by plouw
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Thanks for the comments, i am a bit worried with that steep section at the top of Ifidi. especially the fact that we are only 2 people. 
What about day one: bottom of Fangs, day two: ascend Fangs, day three: walk to head of Ntonyelana pass, day four: walking down Ntonyelana and out?
I've done both Mnweni and Rockeries and want to attempt two others in the area. Saw the write up and photos of Manxome pass...
What about day one: bottom of Fangs, day two: ascend Fangs, day three: walk to head of Ntonyelana pass, day four: walking down Ntonyelana and out?
I've done both Mnweni and Rockeries and want to attempt two others in the area. Saw the write up and photos of Manxome pass...
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17 Apr 2012 12:35 #53587
by mykitchin
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I think as long as you've been to the Mnweni area before and you know where to find all the major trails you should be Ok coming down Fangs and then hiking out to the MCC in one day. There is a good path in the Mbundini valley all the way from the waterfall at the bottom of Fangs pass to the main Mnweni river valley and then from there all the way back to the road.
Your plan B route also sounds very doable, however the walk south along the escarpment to Ntonjelane pass is fairly long...especially as you have to round the Mnweni cutback...we took 7 hours from Fangs cave to the top of Mnweni pass in good weather (no mist or wind) and we were moving at a pace I consider to be fairly fast. However with this route if you find you're not making good time for whatever reason you could always descend via Mnweni or Rockeries.
Your plan B route also sounds very doable, however the walk south along the escarpment to Ntonjelane pass is fairly long...especially as you have to round the Mnweni cutback...we took 7 hours from Fangs cave to the top of Mnweni pass in good weather (no mist or wind) and we were moving at a pace I consider to be fairly fast. However with this route if you find you're not making good time for whatever reason you could always descend via Mnweni or Rockeries.
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17 Apr 2012 13:37 #53588
by tonymarshall
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@plouw,
I agree with mykitchen's response.
You are clearly up for a challenge, and Ntonjelane is quite an easy pass (although a challenging walk from Fangs).
If you're having second thoughts about Ifidi, would you consider a circuit of up Fangs and down Mbundini or Rwanqa or (it shouldn't be too bad down) Manxome?
I agree with mykitchen's response.
You are clearly up for a challenge, and Ntonjelane is quite an easy pass (although a challenging walk from Fangs).
If you're having second thoughts about Ifidi, would you consider a circuit of up Fangs and down Mbundini or Rwanqa or (it shouldn't be too bad down) Manxome?
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17 Apr 2012 14:02 #53590
by plouw
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Thanks guys. There seems to be too many options in the Mnweni. Think i have worked something out. Going up Fangs and on our third day ascend down Manxome pass to that little overhang to spend the night there (or tenting on the viewpoint if weather permits) and walk out from there the last day.
@tonymarshall: your photos really 'sold' that pass to me.
@tonymarshall: your photos really 'sold' that pass to me.
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18 Apr 2012 10:47 #53596
by mykitchin
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Now that sounds like a really cool (and doable) route!! Enjoy! Just make sure you have the right pass when descending (a GPS would help) the area of the escarpment around the pinnacles just before the cutback has tons of gulleys and other passes which could be mistaken for Manxome!
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20 Apr 2012 01:36 #53618
by Serious tribe
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I was also considering of camping in Manxome Pass sometime. I think that the views would be spectacular.
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02 May 2012 07:24 #53687
by plouw
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Wow, these two passes are spectacular! I don't think I would like to descend Ifidi though. Would be very tough on the knees! The up was quite fun, and not too difficult. The scrambles were not difficult at all, and a rope to haul up packs is not a necessity. We reached the top of the pass at last light only, and desperately searched for one of the many Ifidi caves and overhangs. We did see verandah cave but it didn’t seem like a good shelter in the wind. Eventually found a little overhang in the rock bands with a few rocks to semi-block the wind.
Finding Fangs cave the next day was easy, thanks to the descriptions provided here on the site. 
The walk out from Fangs cave to visitor centre in one day was a tall order, and we caught a lift for the last 4km of gravel road.
Quite an epic trip. The Mnweni valley is really special place. I sincerely hope the new road and bridge won’t spoil the friendly, simple, rural culture of the area.
Will post some photos soon.
The walk out from Fangs cave to visitor centre in one day was a tall order, and we caught a lift for the last 4km of gravel road.
Quite an epic trip. The Mnweni valley is really special place. I sincerely hope the new road and bridge won’t spoil the friendly, simple, rural culture of the area.
Will post some photos soon.
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05 May 2012 13:31 #53748
by Geordie
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Hey Plouw
Did you get my message under your wiper blade.. I take it that the EC car was yours.
We followed you up Ifidi a day later, then down Icidi, up Fangs
and down Ntonjelana, so we took a little longer than you did.
Great weather, good company and seven days in total.
Funny that nobody mentioned the great camp site just below Cycad cave ( 12m according to old blikkies, the GPS).
More on the trip later.
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Did you get my message under your wiper blade.. I take it that the EC car was yours.
We followed you up Ifidi a day later, then down Icidi, up Fangs
and down Ntonjelana, so we took a little longer than you did.
Great weather, good company and seven days in total.
Funny that nobody mentioned the great camp site just below Cycad cave ( 12m according to old blikkies, the GPS).
More on the trip later.
G
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