Snow Watch 2017
11 May 2017 09:15 #71555
by MarkT
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How's it looking today, Jon?
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11 May 2017 09:41 #71556
by JonWells
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There still seems to be a lot of uncertainty in the models. The GFS models showed a large increase in snow last night, however their latest forecasts show the snow totals downgraded to a more modest 20-30cm across the whole escarpment. I'm just waiting for some other models to update this morning for comparison.
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11 May 2017 10:20 #71557
by JonWells
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Yr.No (ECMWF Model) has just updated and shows snow totals for the escarpment ranging from 40cm in the South to 10cm in the North.
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11 May 2017 11:52 #71558
by JonWells
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Latest snow accumulation forecast map from snow-forecast.com:
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12 May 2017 08:13 #71568
by JonWells
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Here is the latest Ventusky snow forecast for the weekend:
Some models are still forecasting 90cm+ for Mafadi and Thabana Ntlenyana, so if that pans out, that snow would certainly linger around for quite some time!
Some models are still forecasting 90cm+ for Mafadi and Thabana Ntlenyana, so if that pans out, that snow would certainly linger around for quite some time!
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12 May 2017 11:52 - 12 May 2017 13:03 #71580
by tiska
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I have annotated the plot I loaded up in an earlier post which shows the forecast for Saturday 13 May made from 10 May 2017. The red arrows show where the wind is going and where it has come from. Most of the cold air has to be brought in (in climate terminology - advected) and the source of that cold air is from the south. The green line shows the boundary between relatively warmer air and relatively colder air. The plume of cold air and the wind lines should make it clear how the air has been advected. The high pressure system which spins anticlockwise is also marked. That is the system responsible for driving in the cold, southerly flow over the Berg.
The plot below shows the flow (lines) and temperature (colour) for an altitude of about 3000 m (pressure level 700 hPa) as forecast for Saturday at 1300 from 12 May. The plot can be directly compared with the forecast that was shown in an earlier post of mine/the annotation shown in the plot above. The change in the forecast issued today from the forecast issued at longer lead time is that the air is slightly warmer (-2.7 deg C compared with -3.4 deg C) near Giant's Castle. The flow is no longer simply being fed from the Southern Ocean by the big ridging high. Instead the flow is more mixed up. This has happened because of something going on higher up in the atmosphere.
Here is a plot of the flow higher up in the atmosphere nearer 10 000 m and this is where the forecast for 13 May has changed quite a lot over the last few days. A deep plume of cold air has been moved over southern Africa. A cold core of air has been cut off from the parent supply of cold air to the south so that there is a closed flow around a cold cored low. This is a system called a cut-off low. Note how strong the winds are NE of this cut-off low: 160 km/hr. The cold cored cut off low has had its own influence on the feed of cold air lower down in the atmosphere.
The plot below shows the flow (lines) and temperature (colour) for an altitude of about 3000 m (pressure level 700 hPa) as forecast for Saturday at 1300 from 12 May. The plot can be directly compared with the forecast that was shown in an earlier post of mine/the annotation shown in the plot above. The change in the forecast issued today from the forecast issued at longer lead time is that the air is slightly warmer (-2.7 deg C compared with -3.4 deg C) near Giant's Castle. The flow is no longer simply being fed from the Southern Ocean by the big ridging high. Instead the flow is more mixed up. This has happened because of something going on higher up in the atmosphere.
Here is a plot of the flow higher up in the atmosphere nearer 10 000 m and this is where the forecast for 13 May has changed quite a lot over the last few days. A deep plume of cold air has been moved over southern Africa. A cold core of air has been cut off from the parent supply of cold air to the south so that there is a closed flow around a cold cored low. This is a system called a cut-off low. Note how strong the winds are NE of this cut-off low: 160 km/hr. The cold cored cut off low has had its own influence on the feed of cold air lower down in the atmosphere.
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13 May 2017 13:07 #71589
by tiska
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1300 on Saturday 13th: white-out on Sani escarpment.
1 deg C near Vultures Retreat.
Hats off to JonWells' vigilance and the science of numerical modelling.
1 deg C near Vultures Retreat.
Hats off to JonWells' vigilance and the science of numerical modelling.
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15 May 2017 07:38 #71600
by JonWells
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Thanks for your inputs Tiska, what a fantastic start to the 2017 snow season! Looking forward to seeing the satellite imagery, at this stage we will probably only get our first clear view from tomorrow when the clouds clear.
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15 May 2017 08:46 #71602
by tonymarshall
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Thanks for the great info Tiska and Jon.
On one of the hikes I did at Lotheni earlier this year (either the 21 March long weekend or Easter weekend, I can't remember which one), we saw quite a significant area of snow at Vergelegen, although it appeared quite a thin dusting and probably didn't last long.
On one of the hikes I did at Lotheni earlier this year (either the 21 March long weekend or Easter weekend, I can't remember which one), we saw quite a significant area of snow at Vergelegen, although it appeared quite a thin dusting and probably didn't last long.
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15 May 2017 09:20 #71603
by JonWells
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Tony thats interesting to hear. Did you see it close up or from a distance? Is there any chance it might have been hail?
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