Sleeping Bags
12 Apr 2012 06:51 #53516
by ghaznavid
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Personally I always feel that the clothes you wear and what is between the ground and you make a bigger difference than the bag itself. I am using a Mountain Hardware Pinole -7 bag for my GT this month, combined with thermal inners, I will be sleeping in 2 pairs of thermal pants and shirts and wearing a thermal fleece, thermal socks and gloves when I go to bed. This combined with a self-inflating mattress which significantly reduces the amount of heat you loose to a cold ground should be more than adequate. Also remember that a tent is usually warmer than a cave, so it really depends.
Last year at contour path level I was adequately warm without thermal inners in a -2 K-Way Alpine Cowl bag, so the same bag with thermals would probably have been ok at escarpment level.
To be safe, take a space blanket in addition to everything else, it isn't comfortable and it will make you sweat, but if it is really cold you can avoid going "through the never" and I will not become "unforgiven" by you
Last year at contour path level I was adequately warm without thermal inners in a -2 K-Way Alpine Cowl bag, so the same bag with thermals would probably have been ok at escarpment level.
To be safe, take a space blanket in addition to everything else, it isn't comfortable and it will make you sweat, but if it is really cold you can avoid going "through the never" and I will not become "unforgiven" by you
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12 Apr 2012 07:27 - 12 Apr 2012 07:32 #53518
by Smurfatefrog

Good luck for your GT BTW, expect a full 5 page write up with pics on your return!
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Smartass, & hopefully he wont get Trapped Under Ice & feel like he needs to Jump In The Fireghaznavid wrote: you can avoid going "through the never" and I will not become "unforgiven" by you
Good luck for your GT BTW, expect a full 5 page write up with pics on your return!
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12 Apr 2012 07:47 #53519
by ghaznavid
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I was going to respond with a reference to the Memory Remaining and Nothing Else Mattering, but lets not go down that road 
Thanks, I will have a nice long writeup on the GT, and I expect to take many photos (3000 is my goal), so that will be good...
Thanks, I will have a nice long writeup on the GT, and I expect to take many photos (3000 is my goal), so that will be good...
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12 Apr 2012 11:37 #53522
by Boerkie
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Sleeping bags.... probably my favorite topic of all time on VE! I love it.
I've read all that everyone has to say about sleeping comfortable in cold berg conditions, hear my thoughts.
1. If you are a cold sleeper, go for -15 for all others FA Ice breaker
2. Use a bag liner. I like the idea of making your own out of polar fleece, thx.
3. Use a foam mat of a foam & self inflatable combo but not just self inflatable.
4. Put a good thermal base layer on but don't over dress as you need to have unrestricted blood flow to all limbs to keep warm.
5. Cover your head with a beanie or polartech buff and use the cowl of the bag.
6. Have a high carb meal before bed and drink a hot beverage inside the bag before sleeping.
7. Don't pick fights with your tent buddy, you might want to spoon him/her in the early morning hours.
I've read all that everyone has to say about sleeping comfortable in cold berg conditions, hear my thoughts.
1. If you are a cold sleeper, go for -15 for all others FA Ice breaker
2. Use a bag liner. I like the idea of making your own out of polar fleece, thx.
3. Use a foam mat of a foam & self inflatable combo but not just self inflatable.
4. Put a good thermal base layer on but don't over dress as you need to have unrestricted blood flow to all limbs to keep warm.
5. Cover your head with a beanie or polartech buff and use the cowl of the bag.
6. Have a high carb meal before bed and drink a hot beverage inside the bag before sleeping.
7. Don't pick fights with your tent buddy, you might want to spoon him/her in the early morning hours.
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12 Apr 2012 12:48 #53526
by Mattalica
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Haha, I'm seriously loving all the metallica references
- it's kind of weird when you sit at a PC and find yourself bursting out laughing and people look at you funny...
So after reading everyones comments and the previous posts as well, I am a little more confident to use my bag with all the other accessories on the amphitheatre at the end of the month. Who knows, I might get a little cold if I don't use my brain, and in turn, the rest of my gear correctly, but at least I will learn if I need a newer better bag in the process. I'm sure I wont peg.
By the way those referencing "jump in the fire" "Trapped under ice" "Nothing else matters""memory remains" ect ect ect....you guys have got some flippen amazing taste in music, as if you didn't, you would not know those names.... especially trapped under ice !
Regards
Matt
So after reading everyones comments and the previous posts as well, I am a little more confident to use my bag with all the other accessories on the amphitheatre at the end of the month. Who knows, I might get a little cold if I don't use my brain, and in turn, the rest of my gear correctly, but at least I will learn if I need a newer better bag in the process. I'm sure I wont peg.
By the way those referencing "jump in the fire" "Trapped under ice" "Nothing else matters""memory remains" ect ect ect....you guys have got some flippen amazing taste in music, as if you didn't, you would not know those names.... especially trapped under ice !
Regards
Matt
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13 Apr 2012 09:30 #53537
by ghaznavid
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@Matt: Good luck with your hike, I hope it doesn't become like my hike for this weekend - The Day That Never Comes... Yet another hike cancelled
(just had to do 1 more)
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14 Apr 2012 06:00 #53554
by Wizman
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The trick is to zip them together ,then spoon.
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14 Apr 2012 07:30 #53556
by drsnoobab
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But wait, it goes further - ever heard of Eisbrecher ? German techno-metal band, which is best played loud when the neighbours are far away, and then there's Rammstein's Rosenrot album - the entire cover-art is dedicated to an Ice Breaker theme.
Seems to me First Ascent is choosing some pretty devious ways to push subliminal messages at us !
Seems to me First Ascent is choosing some pretty devious ways to push subliminal messages at us !
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27 May 2012 17:54 #54089
by Smurfatefrog
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Just to clarify some things... the general way of discussing a bag is by season but a season in the little berg is a lot different to the escarpment, so quite a few people are satisfied with the FA Icebreaker which is rated -8, is this adequate on the escarpment in winter? And would a -5 or even a 0 rating be ok for little berg winters as long as you are properly insulated?
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28 May 2012 15:09 #54105
by JonWells
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@Smurfatefrog
Last year in June/July I slept without issues in a Giants Castle valley when the temp was -7°C. My sleeping bag is rated -5°C but I was wearing a good couple layers of clothing as well.
Last year in June/July I slept without issues in a Giants Castle valley when the temp was -7°C. My sleeping bag is rated -5°C but I was wearing a good couple layers of clothing as well.
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